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Woodland Spirit

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It is my belief that a truly great teacher does not promote himself as being above others. Nor ridicules those in error.
I truly can't respect those who promote themselves as superior by belittling the less knowledgeable.
I don't care who you are putting down or how "stupid" they are.
A truly knowledgeable and respectable bonsai teacher reaches out to such people. And if they are rejected they move on to those who will listen.
They have no need to point out the "inferiority" of others.
 

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It is my belief that a truly great teacher does not promote himself as being above others. Nor ridicules those in error.
I truly can't respect those who promote themselves as superior by belittling the less knowledgeable.
I don't care who you are putting down or how "stupid" they are.
A truly knowledgeable and respectable bonsai teacher reaches out to such people. And if they are rejected they move on to those who will listen.
They have no need to point out the "inferiority" of others.
Yes, the great ones are not vain...and do not sit upon a high horse. They do not need to boast...their work stands alone in their accomplishments. Those who fall into that category...I am always humbled that they take the time to offer information up to one such as myself.
 

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There's more then one way to skin a cat.
I agree. The problem comes in when you don't take someone's advice.

Yes, the great ones are not vain...and do not sit upon a high horse. They do not need to boast...their work stands alone in their accomplishments. Those who fall into that category...I am always humbled that they take the time to offer information up to one such as myself.
You are one of the greats as far as quality of spirit goes.
 

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...people burying their nose in a smart phone instead of engaging in conversation with those at their table... There are positives, but anybody who claims that this over expansion of soView attachment 95215 View attachment 95215 View attachment 95215 cial media and smart devices has not eroded the family unit to some degree or to imply it has had no ill- effect on how people communicate in person... Well that is just flat wrong. Social media and the devices we use to connect is an addiction, and there are many negative side effects.

OMG, I didn't even mention TXT speak! LOL ;)
This is how people communicate today... The written word is being replaced with emojis, busted spelling and abbreviations.

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This is how people communicate today... The written word is being replaced with emojis, busted spelling and abbreviations.

With occasional interruptions due to falling into open man-holes, open pits, ditches, poles, other people, ponds, fountains, and being hit by cars, bicycles, busses, landing air craft, taking off air craft, crashing air craft due to the same problem where the pilot is texting, surfing the net, checking porn, doing more than checking porn, and typing that some perceived idiot on Bnut has dissed him.[/QUOTE]

I am in grad school currently and I have written about the changing style of communication espacially among the younger generation thoroughly. Many people I have talked to have expressed similar concerns relating to the degradation of quality communication and this can also be seen as "worse" communication. I believe one other way you could look at this is the evolution or possibly more accurately, people adapting their communication styles to the communication environment we/they exist in.

  • Fortune 500 companies and other orgs. tweet with almost no concern for punctuation, spelling, or sentence structure because of a limit of characters (an extreme example of this would be a police department making strange abbreviations in tweets e.g. 5 ded - roadblok)

  • Non-face to face communication lacks a huge part of traditional communication, nonverbal. Well, human innovation has provided us with a way to express subtle innuendos that cannot be contained in text ;)

  • Now people maintain many more relationships with others than they did or could in the past ex: your favorite social media site or possibly a hobby/art/craft forum where you maintain a presence for the purpose of acqquiring knowledge
I think it just might be a little irresponsible to feel that one method of communication is better tahn the other, I would however say both have their merits. Language and communication have evolved over the millenia, this is an undeniable fact. History has many examples of segments of populations who maintained that the way other groups communicated was inferior, these people and their "true" "correct" "dignified" language have made their stand but now we see the past clearly, what remains is the message not the method of the communication of their times.

Im not saying that anyone with beliefs on either side of the debate are wrong, rather you're right and doing the right thing, being conscious, observant, and intelligent.

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Eric Group

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With occasional interruptions due to falling into open man-holes, open pits, ditches, poles, other people, ponds, fountains, and being hit by cars, bicycles, busses, landing air craft, taking off air craft, crashing air craft due to the same problem where the pilot is texting, surfing the net, checking porn, doing more than checking porn, and typing that some perceived idiot on Bnut has dissed him.

I am in grad school currently and I have written about the changing style of communication espacially among the younger generation thoroughly. Many people I have talked to have expressed similar concerns relating to the degradation of quality communication and this can also be seen as "worse" communication. I believe one other way you could look at this is the evolution or possibly more accurately, people adapting their communication styles to the communication environment we/they exist in.

  • Fortune 500 companies and other orgs. tweet with almost no concern for punctuation, spelling, or sentence structure because of a limit of characters (an extreme example of this would be a police department making strange abbreviations in tweets e.g. 5 ded - roadblok)

  • Non-face to face communication lacks a huge part of traditional communication, nonverbal. Well, human innovation has provided us with a way to express subtle innuendos that cannot be contained in text ;)

  • Now people maintain many more relationships with others than they did or could in the past ex: your favorite social media site or possibly a hobby/art/craft forum where you maintain a presence for the purpose of acqquiring knowledge
I think it just might be a little irresponsible to feel that one method of communication is better tahn the other, I would however say both have their merits. Language and communication have evolved over the millenia, this is an undeniable fact. History has many examples of segments of populations who maintained that the way other groups communicated was inferior, these people and their "true" "correct" "dignified" language have made their stand but now we see the past clearly, what remains is the message not the method of the communication of their times.

Im not saying that anyone with beliefs on either side of the debate are wrong, rather you're right and doing the right thing, being conscious, observant, and intelligent.

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Very well said!

I don't think anyone is completely decrying the advances of modern communication methods that the Internet has allowed us- such as forums like this one- that would be hypocritical. What is of particular concern to me is when I interact with teenagers today, they seem... Shy and disengaged more so than they should and I- along with the parents of many of the teens I have talked to- blame their CONSTANT use of cell phones as the reason for it. They are always buried in their phone, head down, ignoring the world around them to see who tweeted most recently or what pics someone posted on Instagram (or whatever social media site is their preference) and when it comes time to interact with real people in the real world they are just not good at it and not comfortable doing it! I also see a trend that started out as a joke on TV where people TALK using hash tags, and describe an emoji instead of injecting their own personality into a conversation. I hear people all the time saying stuff like "pound get over it" or "hashtag loser"... Whatever they are trying to say and they will sometimes- without even trying to be funny- toss in a "winking smiling emoji" at the end... In CONVERSATION with other real people. Now... I get the irony of it, but that sort of stuff has come full circle to be part of standard conversation these days among certain segments of the population and it is alarming to me...

Also, you mention Fortune 500 companies not paying attention to grammar and spelling on Twitter? I guarantee you they ARE paying attention to it on the resumes submitted to them for job applications and a kid who is trying to get a job and is used to letting his smart phone correct his spelling errors or used to talking in hashtags instead of full sentences is more likely to make a critical mistake on someone like that than someone who is less exposed to that broken version of the English language.

There is a fine line to walk between advancing human communication and regressing and right now I am concerned that we are pushing towards the wrong direction as a society... Perhaps I am more sensitive to it as my father was an English professor (shocking to some I am sure considering the healthy number of typos I post here all the time) but there is a marked RAPID change in how we communicate and it seems to be driving a wedge between people as much or more than it is bringing them together IMO.
 
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