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I'm starting to understand, from your last post, the problem you have encountered. The roots below the surface are long and exposed?

Yes what you can't see is what's below the lip of that can... interesting exposed roots... and beautifully barked at that.... So it's been this way for a very long time... :)

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Hello Miss Vic, I like it with the 2 foliage pads.. The only thing I might do is bring down the top a bit on the apex pad. Maybe something like this

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Rob,

Now you caught me... the view of this tree at the proper angle actually accomplishes what you did virtually. Somewhere between being freezing cold and hungry we snapped a couple photos and called it good... but once I had them on the screen I realized the view wasn't quite right. But we decided to wait to photograph it later as I was bushed. So yes... that is closer to the truth. ;)

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I think you're in the right ballpark wanting to pull the apex back towards the base with the guy wire. It's just not going to be easy to get a more drastic one-way bend to do it. How about doing a "double bend" on the curve-you know, bending it at one point--probably bend down at the current pot rim, then another bend further towards the apex that brings the apex back closer to the base... That might tighten it up in less time than one dangerous drastic bend?

Just an idea. I have no experience with this this species or how it would take to being bent drastically (with rebar and the whole nine yards)....

If the whole spine of that trunk wasn't deadwood on either side I would radically bend it without flinching. But from the base, all the way to that elbow is a dead face that is mostly where you can see it, but also partly to the rear... so in truth there is about 2 inches of that trunk where there ISN'T a dead face. So it's going to be slow as we go movement. We took it just to the edge of sanity and stopped... and then will keep working it in as it is growing along as Vance has mentioned.

I'll have to take photos of the otherside so you can see what I mean... :)

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I like it!

I'm so very happy that you do... I take that as the compliment it is. :)

I agree with you that it's likely in the 100ish range as well... I haven't tried to do any kind of count on the terminal bud scale scars as yet... haven't had it long enough. lol

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I'm so very happy that you do... I take that as the compliment it is. :)

I agree with you that it's likely in the 100ish range as well... I haven't tried to do any kind of count on the terminal bud scale scars as yet... haven't had it long enough. lol

V

Unhindered Lodge Pole Pine will tend to grow straight and tall, er-go the term Lodge Pole Pine. The native Americans used this tree for tent poles. This tree also grows in Alaska. I think I have some shots of it if I can find them. I believe it is the only native species of Pine to the 49th State. Most everything else is Juniper, White, Black and Sitka Spruce along with Larch and two varieties of Hemlock Mountain and Western. Boy are those trees beautiful up there. There is a section of the White Pass Railroad that goes through a forest of these Hemlocks. Most of which are less than two foot high and two-hundred years old.
 
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Pinus contorta Latifolia (Lodge Pole Pine) is a close cousin of this Shore Pine.... but the range of either is a lot the same... Alaska to Northern CA for the most part. :)

I've been through areas like that... Where you are sure it's God's own garden, because it's so very beautiful - to a bonsai lover anyway. :) It's very humbling to be in such places... and rare.

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I knew what it wasn't... that made what it could be much easier to design. It wasn't going to be an upright literati. V

Great Tree. I love this species of tree, I used to collect them when I lived in California. Here is another thought you might want to look at.

Yes, I think so, but that's just my opinion from what I can see of the tree. You have a problem with that and why?????? it's just an opinion not a judgment on someone's parental legitimacy.



My problem was it seemed you glossed over the fact the V. had already said the "one" thing it wasn't going to be was an upright literati. Then you come along and stand it on it's head and suggest an upright literati with a question like here is something you may not have thought about. You just seemed about three sentences behind.....thats all. The good news is that you make me laugh...so all is not lost.
 

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I personally don't care for literati and jin/shari on pines. Having said that, since mother nature presented it to that way, go with it. The cascade would be my favorite with this lovely tree. Good luck and keep us posted with it's progress.

Harry
 

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There is a section of the White Pass Railroad that goes through a forest of these Hemlocks. Most of which are less than two foot high and two-hundred years old.

There is a picture somewhere of me standing next to a mountain hemlock that is less than 6' tall.... that has to be at least 4-500 years old... or more.... if you untangled it it would be 40' tall or more....

if you have seen the picture of Daniel next to "God Tree" then you know what I am talking about ... if not .... get a copy Gnarly Branches Ancient Trees, I know there is a picture in there...
 

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No I do not. All of my trees died while I was in Viet Nam. My mother could not take care of them.
 

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Jeez Vance, you go back aways....Sad that you lost your Bonsai's while serving your country.
I started growin bonsai in 1955-57, back before Karate Kid, and any other public awareness of bonsai. Back before books and tools, and anything helpful in America. Most nursery workers didn't know what bonsai was.
 
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I started growin bonsai in 1955-57, back before Karate Kid, and any other public awareness of bonsai. Back before books and tools, and anything helpful in America. Most nursery workers didn't know what bonsai was.
Thank you very much for your service:D!
 

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Yes, we could have lost the charming and intelligent, lovable Vance.
Those about live ---------- salute you.
Good Day
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Hmm...

I'd be interested to see what Vic's tree looks like today.

To me, I think the guy wire is pulling the end of the tree up. Which doesn't make sense to me. What the tree says to me is that all it's attempts to grow up have failed, so to survive, it's been the downward growth that has lived. So, pulling the outer growth up seems contrary to the history of the tree.

Likewise with the first branch. It's currently turned to grow back towards the roots. Yet the trunk is strongly going left. There are no jins or evidence of branches on the trunk that suggest branches would survive in the location where that branch is located. So why would the tree have a branch there? All it's success has been when growing to the left and down.

Well, those are my thoughts, I'm sure others may see a different tree.
 
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