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Sometimes I like the nebari from the other side better... with such an aggressive chop, I could entertain the opposite front.
 

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Got some buds starting to extend and turn green, so I did some work on this guy.

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I know it's just a training pot, but why in the world didn't I put the chipped corner in the back? Oh well. I'll be more intentional with the nicer pots in the future.
 

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Got some buds starting to extend and turn green, so I did some work on this guy.

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I know it's just a training pot, but why in the world didn't I put the chipped corner in the back? Oh well. I'll be more intentional with the nicer pots in the future.


No worries you have company. I did the same thing with a nice shohin. I realized right after repotting it, I had the chipped side facing the front. Doh! :confused: Very nice trident!
 

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No worries you have company. I did the same thing with a nice shohin. I realized right after repotting it, I had the chipped side facing the front. Doh! :confused: Very nice trident!

Haha! Well thank you. It is a bit deceiving, though... it looks awful from the side. The trunk is very two-dimensional, so there is some bad reverse taper when viewed from the side. I'm still happy to have it in my collection, though!
 

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I posted on another of your threads about trying to develop in a bonsai pot.

Look at BVF's post in this thread where he shows his grow boxes. That's what you need to be growing in at this stage of development.
 

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I posted on another of your threads about trying to develop in a bonsai pot.

Look at BVF's post in this thread where he shows his grow boxes. That's what you need to be growing in at this stage of development.

Haha well I guess a little setback is a good learning experience. Hopefully they do alright until the next repot, then maybe I'll have a little more wisdom.
 

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Haha well I guess a little setback is a good learning experience. Hopefully they do alright until the next repot, then maybe I'll have a little more wisdom.

I don't think they've started growing yet. If I were you, I'd repot into training boxes now. You will get far better growth this year, and development.
 

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I don't think they've started growing yet. If I were you, I'd repot into training boxes now. You will get far better growth this year, and development.

Oh okay cool, I'll see what I've got laying around!
 

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I don't think they've started growing yet. If I were you, I'd repot into training boxes now. You will get far better growth this year, and development.
Oh okay cool, I'll see what I've got laying around!
Fwiw, this year, I'm moving some trees that have been in ceramic pots for years into home made wooden boxes... once the light bulb went off and I realized how much better the roots in particular will develop in a box, the decision was easy.
 

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Fwiw, this year, I'm moving some trees that have been in ceramic pots for years into home made wooden boxes... once the light bulb went off and I realized how much better the roots in particular will develop in a box, the decision was easy.

Well I think the lightbulb is finally starting to flicker on in here as well, haha.
 

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Fwiw, this year, I'm moving some trees that have been in ceramic pots for years into home made wooden boxes... once the light bulb went off and I realized how much better the roots in particular will develop in a box, the decision was easy.


Do this also with trees that become weak for one reason or another.
 

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About to finish up these ugly ol' boxes. Haha. Hopefully the trees will thank me with lots of good growth.

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Hi Grant. Those are heavy duty, to be sure. Remember that with broadleaf trees we're aiming for shallow root systems. So I like shallow (not too shallow) and wide training pots. Wide is good because we're trying to let the surface roots run. As they run, they get strong. Strong surface roots improve the appearance of the nebari. Downward growing roots should be eliminated during repotting and discouraged from getting reestablished between reports. A shallow pot is good. Some folks use a board or a tile as well. That may help, but proper root pruning and a shallow, wide pot is very important. Anderson flats are one of my favorite training pots.

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If you don't have one of these laying around, wooden pot in about these dimensions (15"x15"x4") would be great for your tree. You could probably go with cedar fencing instead of 2x4s if you want. It'll be a lot lighter.

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Hi Grant. Those are heavy duty, to be sure. Remember that with broadleaf trees we're aiming for shallow root systems. So I like shallow (not too shallow) and wide training pots. Wide is good because we're trying to let the surface roots run. As they run, they get strong. Strong surface roots improve the appearance of the nebari. Downward growing roots should be eliminated during repotting and discouraged from getting reestablished between reports. A shallow pot is good. Some folks use a board or a tile as well. That may help, but proper root pruning and a shallow, wide pot is very important. Anderson flats are one of my favorite training pots.

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If you don't have one of these laying around, wooden pot in about these dimensions (15"x15"x4") would be great for your tree. You could probably go with cedar fencing instead of 2x4s if you want. It'll be a lot lighter.

Scott

I have like 4 of those!! For some reason I was thinking it was important that the box be wooden. Thank you for the info! This has definitely been a season of learning.
 

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Okay, got this tree in an Anderson. I quickly learned to double them up so the soil doesn't slosh around on the roots when I pick it up. I put a base layer of big pumice because the holes are a little big, then regular sized pumice to fill the gaps. Then I screwed the tree to an untreated pine board and put it in there and filled the rest with layers of ClayKing and Jonas' Ready Mix. I'll get a pic when it's daytime so we can see if I'm finally done with these trials & errors, haha.
 

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let it grow ,let it grow, let it grow! You made and listened to all the right directions now fertilize and water well and keep us updated!
 
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