Whats Going on in Smoke's Backyard?

Smoke · Jan 17, 2017

milehigh_7 said:
Hey @Smoke , you mentioned Drake above. I know you have mentioned it before but can you remind me why they are better than the species? Thanks!

I do not like the straight rows of leaves that come out on the branches of some of the dwarf species, like seiju, hokkaido and the like. I especially don't like the rows of bumps on some of those species. The drake elm tends to have foliage that looks more tree like and branch divides easier.

M. Frary · Jan 18, 2017

I have a couple of tiny leaf elms that the vendor thought were seiju.
The leaves and growth pattern don't match that species,they look and grow like regular Chinese elm. They also have cork bark.
I thought they were yatsabu said but maybe they are Drake?
Or are Drake and Yatsabu said the same tree?

Vin · Jan 18, 2017

M. Frary said:
I have a couple of tiny leaf elms that the vendor thought were seiju.
The leaves and growth pattern don't match that species,they look and grow like regular Chinese elm. They also have cork bark.
I thought they were yatsabu said but maybe they are Drake?
Or are Drake and Yatsabu said the same tree?View attachment 129373 View attachment 129374

Drake Elm bark does not look like yours. It looks like this:

JudyB · Jan 18, 2017

Vin said:
Drake Elm bark does not look like yours. It looks like this:

View attachment 129376

So is Drake also known as Lace Bark elm?

Vin · Jan 18, 2017

JudyB said:
So is Drake also known as Lace Bark elm?

It is my understanding is they are not the same. Chinese elm is Ulmus parvifolia and 'Drake' Chinese elm is Ulmus parvifolia 'Drake' with Drake being an improved sub-cultivar. At least that's my understanding so don't take it to the bank.

milehigh_7 · Jan 18, 2017

Vin said:
It is my understanding is they are not the same. Chinese elm is Ulmus parvifolia and 'Drake' Chinese elm is Ulmus parvifolia 'Drake' with Drake being an improved sub-cultivar. At least that's my understanding so don't take it to the bank.

I believe you are correct and I believe that seiju and Yatsabu are both sports from hokkaido both introduced by Carl Young unless I am mistaken.

What I don't know is what the "improvement" of drake is...

Smoke · Jan 18, 2017

milehigh_7 said:
What I don't know is what the "improvement" of drake is...

Resistant to "Dutch Elm Disease".

milehigh_7 · Jan 18, 2017

Smoke said:
Resistant to "Dutch Elm Disease".

That is important!

Smoke · Jan 18, 2017

milehigh_7 said:
That is important!

I guess it is in Holland and Belgium. But I'll take the new and improved model any day.

Smoke · Jan 18, 2017

Vin said:
Drake Elm bark does not look like yours. It looks like this:

JudyB said:
So is Drake also known as Lace Bark elm?

Ulmus Parvifolia and Ulmus parvifolia Drake are indistinguishable as far as bark and both commonly called lace bark elm. But only after about 15 years or more. For most elms under 3 feet tall it will take a long time to have really good lace bark. When they do get lace bark it is usually out of scale for the trunk since it forms large jig saw pieces that are large compared to the trunk. It is pretty orange though when it happens. Here is one that has some lace starting to form. First when I got it, then a couple years later we can see the bark flaking off with the orange under the old bark.

YukiShiro · Jan 19, 2017

ooh I remember this one!

it is very unique to me

best regards
Herman

Smoke · Jan 21, 2017

Over the years I have acquired several Mas Ishii Shimpaku junipers. Over the year I have worked on them trying different things and wiring and trying to make them special. maybe its just the patina of age or skills from working over so many, but some have finally found a new life and are worthy of a photo. I showed 4 of them I restyled several weeks ago and this was the last one.

In 2013 was the earliest photo I could find. I know the tree is much older than that I just don't have a picture since it never looked very good.

Later that year I styled the tree again, cleaning up the dead branches and removing lots of branches that did not belong.

In 2014 I put it into this glazed Sarah Raynor drum pot.

Smoke · Jan 21, 2017

Over the last few days the tree was looked over in anticipation of a rework. The tree was repotted into this shallow Begei pot.

After some wire and bending of branches and a Al Keppler photo shoot I have this.

The highly detailed quasi professional photo studio at the bunker.

0soyoung · Jan 21, 2017

The Raynor was really nice, but this is yummy!

Smoke · Jan 21, 2017

0soyoung said:
The Raynor was really nice, but this is yummy!

Now there is an adjective you don't hear very often describing bonsai. ....I mean I've heard it wearing the thong....but never a tree?

0soyoung · Jan 21, 2017

Smoke said:
Now there is an adjective you don't hear very often describing bonsai. ....I mean I've heard it wearing the thong....but never a tree?

Sometimes what I see evokes feelings similar to really tasty food I haven't eaten for some time.
My response wasn't reasoned.

I hope whomever said your thong was yummy wasn't experiencing similar emotions to mine.

M. Frary · Jan 22, 2017

Smoke said:
.I mean I've heard it wearing the thong...

Some people just like what they like.
The poor buggers.

JudyB · Jan 22, 2017

0soyoung said:
The Raynor was really nice, but this is yummy!

Actually I agree....

Smoke · Jan 22, 2017

JudyB said:
Actually I agree....

That my thong is yummy?

JudyB · Jan 22, 2017

The pot/tree combo is yummy, the thong is for desert...

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