Smoke
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This is an important interchange of ideas. It did not occur to me until Bonhe's last post. What is my/his expectation of a tree we work on?
From this exchange I might surmise that Bonhe feels that his trees will be much better in twenty years. That's a Hell of a statement. Many people in this hobby never even make it 20 years. I have no doubt that his tree will be better in 20 years and I hope I live long enough to see him post them here! I have no idea how old Bonhe is. I am 61 years old. I may not see another 20 years, and if I do I'm pretty sure I will be sitting in a chair with a blanky over my lap and a big calico cat sitting there, I sure am not gonna be defoliating tridents.
Now if I were say 30, I might love to look forward and see what my trees may look like in twenty years, and this would be an extraordinary amount of time in bonsai years. But I mentioned 100 years. Lets say I have a tree I been working on for 20 years, and by some stroke of magic I live another 20 years and am able to defoliate maples till I'm 81. My tree now would have been worked on for 40 years. But, imagine what another 60 years could do. Now we are into the realm of the Japanese bonsai that have been in pots for almost a century and passed down to other generations.
So....what is your expectation for the trees you take care of? Do you wish to get them the best you can and settle for what 20 years can bring or do you prepare the material for the future hobbiest that may take your work and add to it with another 40 years and so on?
Do you work with the expectation that you may never see the tree in it's finest form because you lack the expertise or the time, or both? Or do you work the tree feeling that settling on the tree in its current form is the best it will be and I will never see it finished so this is it?
I have no idea....maybe someone has some better insight.
This is the oldest tree I have that's been in constant training since I purchased it. 16 years in training. Four more to go for 20 years. What could I expect to see in another 80 years? Of course I won't, but it sure is nice to ponder.....
Before 2001
Current 2017
Thanks Smoke. I believe they will be really good when they turns into 20 years old! For some reason, it just fits to my mind that every tree will be looked very good from 20 years old. The older the tree, the better quality the tree is.
Bonhe
I'm a little more far sighted. My trees need a good 100 years
Original threadMy expectation is much lower than yours!
Bonhe
From this exchange I might surmise that Bonhe feels that his trees will be much better in twenty years. That's a Hell of a statement. Many people in this hobby never even make it 20 years. I have no doubt that his tree will be better in 20 years and I hope I live long enough to see him post them here! I have no idea how old Bonhe is. I am 61 years old. I may not see another 20 years, and if I do I'm pretty sure I will be sitting in a chair with a blanky over my lap and a big calico cat sitting there, I sure am not gonna be defoliating tridents.
Now if I were say 30, I might love to look forward and see what my trees may look like in twenty years, and this would be an extraordinary amount of time in bonsai years. But I mentioned 100 years. Lets say I have a tree I been working on for 20 years, and by some stroke of magic I live another 20 years and am able to defoliate maples till I'm 81. My tree now would have been worked on for 40 years. But, imagine what another 60 years could do. Now we are into the realm of the Japanese bonsai that have been in pots for almost a century and passed down to other generations.
So....what is your expectation for the trees you take care of? Do you wish to get them the best you can and settle for what 20 years can bring or do you prepare the material for the future hobbiest that may take your work and add to it with another 40 years and so on?
Do you work with the expectation that you may never see the tree in it's finest form because you lack the expertise or the time, or both? Or do you work the tree feeling that settling on the tree in its current form is the best it will be and I will never see it finished so this is it?
I have no idea....maybe someone has some better insight.
This is the oldest tree I have that's been in constant training since I purchased it. 16 years in training. Four more to go for 20 years. What could I expect to see in another 80 years? Of course I won't, but it sure is nice to ponder.....
Before 2001
Current 2017