Hans van Meer
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HI everybody,
I hope they don't mind me quoting them here in my own thread! And I hope they will join in and give me their thoughts and opinions!
In a other fun thread "An opinion poll, just for fun...." placed by GREERH (Harry) :
http://www.bonsainut.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1497
GREERH (HARRY) asks people there opinion and or virtual to restyle a Bonsai in the picture he showed.
Please read the next well written reply from EMK to this question, in witch he gives his honest feelings about how he sees a beautiful Bonsai:
First: The post and the above quote are not the discussion here, I just showed them, to show you, why I placed my post!
A part of this, again well written reply, started a discussion in my own mind, again! A discussion I had so many times before in my own head! So I might as well ask you all!
My question to you all, is a important Bonsai art wise question and a Bonsai art wise dilemma to me! And because I did not wanted to hack into a other bonsai friend thread, I made this new thread about my next question:
DO BONSAI REALY HAVE TO LOOK LIKE A BIG SIZE TREE?
I hope you will seriously think about this question and give me a honest answer and your reasons why?!
I am really interested in this issue, because I have such a strong feeling and opinion about this personally. And I do believe it is a important subject to think about and seriously discuss among bonsai friends. So what do you think?
My own opinion:
DO BONSAI REALY HAVE TO LOOK LIKE A BIG SIZE TREE?
No! Absolutely not. They are small fantasy's trees in a pot!
Why: Because Bonsai is a Art form, that like any other Art form, can and may travels between abstract and magical realism. As long as it is done in good taste and the tree is appealing to me, I will applaud them all. A Bonsai should be judged by its quality and beauty, not by its style, form or creator!
Beside that: Bonsai are/should be, a Bonsai Artist interpretation of how he sees a tree in his own might and world, some will paint with a small brush, while others will use a sponge. And even some will try to use a camera, to show us their fantasy tree world in a pot! So don't discard any form of Bonsai Art. It will only hinder you, in your own pursuit to find your own personal way to express your Bonsai ideas, in what ever form that may be!
And you might miss out on seeing Bonsai Art, when you only look for small trees in pots!
That's my opinion in a Bonsai Nut shell
What are your thoughts?
Regards,
Hans van Meer.
I hope they don't mind me quoting them here in my own thread! And I hope they will join in and give me their thoughts and opinions!
In a other fun thread "An opinion poll, just for fun...." placed by GREERH (Harry) :
http://www.bonsainut.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1497
GREERH (HARRY) asks people there opinion and or virtual to restyle a Bonsai in the picture he showed.
Please read the next well written reply from EMK to this question, in witch he gives his honest feelings about how he sees a beautiful Bonsai:
Since you asked...
While I like both of your images better than Mojosan's overall, those individual trees did bring to light a nagging issue with your original tree. While it's a visually appealing bonsai, it really doesn't look like a "tree". The extraneous deadwood that you removed in the virt makes me think that on some level you recognize that the original looks more like an interesting deadwood project than a real tree you might encounter in nature.
<understatement>Now I'm no expert</understatement> but I'm sure there are others here who could point out excellent examples of real-world trees that have a lot of surrounding deadwood that's not part of the trunk/branch structure of the main tree that might be composed in a similar manner to what you have here, but I think we'd find that it looks quite different than the deadwood on your tree. I would guess that it would mainly be an issue of scale.
So, in the end, I think the original image with some serious refinement of the deadwood could make a better overall composition, but as it stands now, the second image has a lot of potential on it's own and looks far more tree-like than the other.
First: The post and the above quote are not the discussion here, I just showed them, to show you, why I placed my post!
A part of this, again well written reply, started a discussion in my own mind, again! A discussion I had so many times before in my own head! So I might as well ask you all!
My question to you all, is a important Bonsai art wise question and a Bonsai art wise dilemma to me! And because I did not wanted to hack into a other bonsai friend thread, I made this new thread about my next question:
DO BONSAI REALY HAVE TO LOOK LIKE A BIG SIZE TREE?
I hope you will seriously think about this question and give me a honest answer and your reasons why?!
I am really interested in this issue, because I have such a strong feeling and opinion about this personally. And I do believe it is a important subject to think about and seriously discuss among bonsai friends. So what do you think?
My own opinion:
DO BONSAI REALY HAVE TO LOOK LIKE A BIG SIZE TREE?
No! Absolutely not. They are small fantasy's trees in a pot!
Why: Because Bonsai is a Art form, that like any other Art form, can and may travels between abstract and magical realism. As long as it is done in good taste and the tree is appealing to me, I will applaud them all. A Bonsai should be judged by its quality and beauty, not by its style, form or creator!
Beside that: Bonsai are/should be, a Bonsai Artist interpretation of how he sees a tree in his own might and world, some will paint with a small brush, while others will use a sponge. And even some will try to use a camera, to show us their fantasy tree world in a pot! So don't discard any form of Bonsai Art. It will only hinder you, in your own pursuit to find your own personal way to express your Bonsai ideas, in what ever form that may be!
And you might miss out on seeing Bonsai Art, when you only look for small trees in pots!
That's my opinion in a Bonsai Nut shell
What are your thoughts?
Regards,
Hans van Meer.
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