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I snapped a pic of a close up shot from the leaves on mine so you can see if the characteristics match yours.i know it's nearly impossible to distinguish a palmatum this way and its fall here but Hope this helps a little:confused:
 

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I posted a pic of the leafs of my shin deshojo a few months ago on another of your 'deshoho threads'. New leafs are always coral red and fade to 'thin green'.

All of my acer palmatums have two growth spurts, the second starting just after the summer solstice, so your tree should have coral leafs at the shoot tips again, starting c.a. January.


prior post with photo: http://bonsainut.com/forums/showthread.php?14836-do-Deshojo-dissectum-arakawa-bloodgood-grow-from-seed&p=219232#post219232
 
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Max my deshojo looked exactly like your pic. To me it does not look to be a standard A. Palmatum at all. Can never say for certain but good possibility it is indeed a deshojo.
 

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Thanks 0soyoung, I am aware of those pics, that is why I think it is deshojo.
So these trees get two mayor growing periods? And in between just set out a couple of new leaves?

The tiny pair of leaves at the bottom are completely red, I remember it being that way. I believe the fluorescent lights are deceiving.

Thanks for all your help! I think we should just let time tell what is going on. I will get better pictures when I get to go again.
 

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Thanks 0soyoung, I am aware of those pics, that is why I think it is deshojo.

Okay. Good.

So these trees get two mayor growing periods? And in between just set out a couple of new leaves?

Yes, all acer palmatum do this as best I know (BTW, it is safe to repot just before the second flush starts, but I am not urging you to necessarily do so). With my shin deshojo, there is a fairly brief time just before the summer solstice that it is all green. It is all green again just before leaf drop in the fall. It has red leafs at branch tips all summer long (solstice onward; as in the pic - it was only about a week ago that the tips of mine turned green again).

The tiny pair of leaves at the bottom are completely red, I remember it being that way. I believe the fluorescent lights are deceiving.

I think we should just let time tell what is going on.

I agree. Sorry about creating all the hoodoo.
 

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Max my deshojo looked exactly like your pic. To me it does not look to be a standard A. Palmatum at all. Can never say for certain but good possibility it is indeed a deshojo.

I'd trust this guy, not me!
 

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Max my deshojo looked exactly like your pic. To me it does not look to be a standard A. Palmatum at all. Can never say for certain but good possibility it is indeed a deshojo.

Hopefully!
 

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Max, I'm pretty sure you have a Deshojo in your hands. Your Deshojo looks like my Shin Deshojo.
 

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So the tree has been left to grow in a larger pot than what it came in, 100% red lava. I gave some shape to the longer sacrifice branches to airlayer them later (I cannot afford to loose my only shot at having one of these), how much thickness gets added to the trunk once in a bonsai pot and I start working the branching? almost none or do you still get a bit if it is in a larger pot?? I will get some pics on the weekend.
 

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Yes Max you will still get some thickening albeit nowhere nearly as fast as a tree planted in the ground. Usually ground is for faster trunk development. Branch development can happen (and often better) in a training box or pot.
 

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This grew fast! It has like 6 or 7 whips that grew to like 6 feet! One of them is the tiny little bud half an inch from the soil that I will think it is thickening the base. It is still in the plastic round pot in 50% lava 50% potting soil in the pictures with the supertrhive. I will post pics when it looses its leaves. But it got me thinking what to do with it... I was thinking on airlayering right above the top fork from the original image. And maybe give it two more years in the pot (I don't have a place to stick it in the ground), maybe a larger pot next year.

But this thing is happy!!! Waiting is just killing me!!! (had to post this nonsense because I went to see it yesterday and am supper happy... #stuffonlyIaminterestedin)
 

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It's gotten fatter.

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But the nebari reeks

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Should I leave it get fatter and then ground layer o start cutting one of those roots this year, another one next year and put it on a ceramic disc in a shallow grow box?
 
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