Donald Trump.

[Bolero]

SK said:
You've made off with more than your fill at the public trough and now in your later years you are still short that one thing that you wanted the most all along, reverence. And, just like Trump, because you can't get an accurate picture of yourself in everyone else's eyes because of the abundance of gluttony you've afforded yourselves, you will die being the most reviled generation and individuals in modern history.


Where do you come up with this delusional BS, This is your mind running out of control and you spouting off this nonsense...

Unfortunately you have let your thoughts become some sort of delusional discourse and you apparently believe it...

In Medical circles this type of discourse is considered a Neurological or Psychiatric Disease, I sincerely hope you do not become Pathological as well....

You may need Psychiatric help to straighten out your Thought Process...Please Seek help...

I will no longer respond to your Post's, I do not want to be an enabler or considered to be encouraging your Present Mental Behavior.

Again, please seek help...

 

[watchndsky]

For "some" Americans yes, but tell that same thing to the millions of people "off-shore" who have suffered because of American Foreign Policy, largely at the hands (or decisions) of the people born in the Baby Boomer era in the U.S.A. A quick search brought up this link (possibly not that credible) that suggests the possibility of up to 2 million since the war on terror began. http://www.middleeasteye.net/column...ave-killed-four-million-muslims-1990-39149394

Let me point out that before the Bush's entered power, there was no big problem with the Middle East or any Muslim faction.

The only reason the U.S. went there was for the oil.... oil that Canada had/has in abundance and were more than willing to sell to the U.S. How many barrels of oil came out of Iraq and how many American Service men and women died or were maimed... and now equate those casualties to a cost or a life/barrel of oil equivalent. If I was an American, ever time I filled my tank, I'd be thinking about the "cost per human life per tank" (military and civilian) that these Administrations have cost us, and then also divide into that, the 7 Billion dollars the war cost, plus the loss in positive perception towards Americans as a whole to top it all off... now, tell me the "cost per tank, or the cost per gallon of that precious volatile liquid.

im tired of bush getting all the blame when those in the know, know its @Vance Wood fault there is trouble in the middle east. that area has been the greatest example of peace, quiet and compassion for its fellow man for thousand of years - that is until vance sent troops over. (cue the imperial march from star wars)

you know what - ive been thinking - yall should sanction us.

 

[Spdyracer]

For "some" Americans yes, but tell that same thing to the millions of people "off-shore" who have suffered because of American Foreign Policy, largely at the hands (or decisions) of the people born in the Baby Boomer era in the U.S.A. A quick search brought up this link (possibly not that credible) that suggests the possibility of up to 2 million since the war on terror began. http://www.middleeasteye.net/column...ave-killed-four-million-muslims-1990-39149394

Let me point out that before the Bush's entered power, there was no big problem with the Middle East or any Muslim faction.

The only reason the U.S. went there was for the oil.... oil that Canada had/has in abundance and were more than willing to sell to the U.S. How many barrels of oil came out of Iraq and how many American Service men and women died or were maimed... and now equate those casualties to a cost or a life/barrel of oil equivalent. If I was an American, ever time I filled my tank, I'd be thinking about the "cost per human life per tank" (military and civilian) that these Administrations have cost us, and then also divide into that, the 7 Billion dollars the war cost, plus the loss in positive perception towards Americans as a whole to top it all off... now, tell me the "cost per tank, or the cost per gallon of that precious volatile liquid.

You say your not from the US so what country are you from?

 

[watchndsky]

the solution is so simple - if it werent for vance and those baby boomers mucking it all up for the rest of world.

 

[Bolero]

I am asking the thread posters here to please stop for a moment and offer HELP to SKbonsaiguy, maybe a PM or a Conversation or some form of Advice to help

You say your not from the US so what country are you from?

SK guy is from Canada, possibly Winnipeg...

 

[Random User]

If you went back to 1960, the one thing that Middle East leaders and Kings disliked the most about American society was the freedoms that democracy allowed them to enjoy. Entrepreneurship abounded and the extravagance of the hippy era must have many many a Muslim cleric want to puke.

So (years later) without provocation the U.S. went in deposed a government (or series of governments) that had the ability to keep a lid on the worst of the worst criminals in their own countries. It was the same thing as walking across the hospital ward and ripping a bandage off of a hemophiliac. So now the factions that were being held in check by their own governments were allowed to take hold... money flowed into the area (when it should have gone north to the likes of Canada and other friendly nations) and now, those really dangerous factions were able to travel to the U.S. and 9/11 happened. Now follow that with ever increasing infringements on the average American and travel bands from other nations. Ever travel on an airplane lately?... ever wonder why there are so many restrictions? Ever wonder IF those Middle East leaders and Kings aren't having a little chuckle over the irony of the situation?... the one thing that they disliked about American society the most was now quickly in decline, brought on by American foolishness to begin with, and mandated by the American Government themselves... AND YET, many Americans can't even see that their erosion in quality of life, loss of civil liberties, and higher cost of living was brought on by their own government(s)... for no good reason.

Look at the big picture... don't you think that it's time the American Government took care of the issues at home before going off on another crippling endevour?

 

[Bolero]

Ford Motor Co announces a 1.3 Billion $$$ Growth and Expansion Program for Michigan....

Thank you Pres. Trump for encouraging FOMOCO to Expand here & not in Mexico, China, Etc....

 

[Random User]

SK guy is from Canada, possibly Winnipeg...

LMAO... the truth hurts, eh!

 

[Random User]

Ford Motor Co announces a 1.3 Billion $$$ Growth and Expansion Program for Michigan....

Thank you Pres. Trump for encouraging FOMOCO to Expand here & not in Mexico, China, Etc....

That is exactly the kind of thing that your economy needs... I like it.

See Bolero, I'm not just a "one side of the isle" kind of a guy. I want Americans to flourish and succeed, but it won't happen following the template of the last 20 years.

 

[Random User]

You say your not from the US so what country are you from?

Canadian

 

[Random User]

"the greatest example of peace, quiet and compassion for its fellow man for thousand of years"

The bed of civilization and they can't get it right themselves... how are bombs going to help?

 

[Spdyracer]

LMAO... the truth hurts, eh!

Not at all. Out of all our problems here there's still no other country I would rather live! You come across with a lot of hate and anger, feel sorry for you if this is how you really think and feel.

 

[Random User]

Not at all. Out of all our problems here there's still no other country I would rather live! You come across with a lot of hate and anger, feel sorry for you if this is how you really think and feel.

It's not hate and anger, its knowing that things could be so much better for the average American if you managed to have a Government that decided to look after things at home first.

 

[my nellie]

Ooooops! Bolero on stage again

 

[Random User]

"the greatest example of peace, quiet and compassion for its fellow man for thousand of years"

The bed of civilization and they can't get it right themselves... how are bombs going to help?

The Russians went into Afghanistan and had their asses handed to them, how did the American Government expect anything different?

 

[Random User]

I've got to agree that SKB's last statement was pretty harsh and over exaggerated. Totally fucking the economy for future generations and then calling those generations lazy whiners for being pissed about it is pretty laughable, but come on compared to modern history it's not even 1% as bad as the other shit that's happened.

You mean you HAVE seen vaults in coffins!

 

[Bolero]

Ooooops! Bolero on stage again

Thanks Alexandra, many of my friends and acquaintances the World Over have missed my usual Banter so I have returned FWIW....

On another note is Greece still experiencing Economic Meltdown ???

I sure hope they can get their financial Act together...

Greece being such a Universally accepted Country of Origins of Civilization, Socrates, Plato, Homer...

I've heard rumors that the Greeks discovered Love and Sex prior to discovering Women...???

 

[watchndsky]

That is exactly the kind of thing that your economy needs... I like it.

See Bolero, I'm not just a "one side of the isle" kind of a guy. I want Americans to flourish and succeed, but it won't happen following the template of the last 20 years.

despite what you just said - you really dont seem to care for america much other than maybe in the context of how we might impact your own economy. but you and the hanuka guy (whatever name is ) rarely miss an opportunity to bash our people, our policies, (or vance).

you need to make distinctions between which iraq war you mean and what really happened - we went in for oil is a bullshit answer.

i dont think we should have ever went into afghanistan (many americans dont) and all evidence points to us being mistaken in our evidence for the second war - but our leaders make mistakes to. what they are not doing is gassing their own people, invading foreign countries to take their resources (i never got any free oil) raping pillaging etc so even we were wrong for going into iraq - the wrong decision came about for the right reasons.

and you really cant have it both ways man. this country is the rich uncle who has to pay for everybody else in the family because "i aint got it man, can you float me till next week" . we are expected to intervene, and then criticised when we do and criticized when we dont.

but lets see how it plays out in these scenarios

-the us invades because of bad intelligence
-it was bad intelligence - oops
-it was under the guise of bad intelligence to get that oil - ok - except we didnt? and there is a global impact associated with oil crises so - i dont think anyone else would complain for stabilizing supply

-the us invades for oil
-ok - explain what oil we really got out of that compared to the expense

-the us invades only to serve it own interest
- please tell me what govt in this world doesnt - the difference is the motivation and justification used - was it an aggressive move or a defensive one

now im not saying my country is without fault - humans abuse power and position throughout, we are not immune to that. but were not ww2 germany or present day russia, just arbitrarily deciding we want some shit and going out to take it. its getting pretty old to hear how weve messed up everything. everything? every .... thing....

our private citizenry has over 300million guns, (regardless of what the military has). have we ever popped over and said -hey canada we want this - its ours now. tough shit. because you kinda make it sound like thats what we do and its offensive.

your obviously not an idiot - i can tell youre a reasonably smart guy. do you really not see how constantly making snide remarks about our country might piss somebody off? if you dont care thats fine. but at least be truthful about it and not turn around and pretend you didnt say anything. its almost like you (and whatever the other guys name is) just want free reign to insult someone(vance), some group (boomers) or some country (mine) and then if anything gets said back your offended that anyone had the audacity challenge it?

im just wondering if thats really how you feel or a misstating of how you feel and you dont realize it - because you dont seem to be the type to just post some random hate, hidden in some incoherent jargon and top it off with a completely unrelated music video.

 

[Spdyracer]

It's not hate and anger, its knowing that things could be so much better for the average American if you managed to have a Government that decided to look after things at home first.

Oh I could agree with that but if we did just that you think there's countries that hate us now there would be a much longer list. Funny thing is that's part of what's going on with Mexico now. The last several presidents have talked about what a problem we have but none have really done much about it. Soon as we get a president that wants to "look after things at home" then the guy is automatically hated for it and called a racist. Problem is cant have it both ways. People can't get mad if the US starts looking out for itself but yet they do. Damned if you do damned if you don't. If you think the US should stay out of others problems and put ours first and work on our problems then I would think you would love trump since that's what he wants to do.

 

[michaelj]

Let me point out that before the Bush's entered power, there was no big problem with the Middle East or any Muslim faction.

Please do point it out, maybe with some citations or at least factual references. If I understand you correctly, you are saying that prior to 1988, there was no problem with the Middle East, and there was no issue with any Islamic group, correct?

When you point this out, please explain away the stuff the rest of us see as problems from before the Bush era. I'll be a sport and not make you go back to issues along the Barbary Coast, or within the Ottoman Empire, the jihad against the Marathas, the First Anglo-Afghan War or other ancient history that goes all the way back to the Kharijites, but at least put in the effort to dismiss the the Munich Olympic massacre, the Iranian Hostage Crisis, the Six-Day War, the Yom Kippur War, the Hama massacre and Syrian Uprising, the Borobudur Buddhist temple bombings, the 1983 United States embassy and barracks bombings and the Lebanese Civil War, the rise of Islamic Jihad, the PLO and Hamas, among other things...