Reminds me a bit of this one...
The 2010 BonsaiNut Maple Project
Are we missing something? As others have said, the trunk looks good from that one picture. What was your vision for it and what's bothering you about it now? Fwiw, I know what I'd do with it.
You havn't posted an idea. Just trolling for others to make your bonsai.Your tree is awesome, BTW. Read the thread several times.
its not that I saw any problems with it, I just couldn't make my mind up. This is my first tree that got me into bonsai and Im still learning development and how it changes over time. So I just wanted to hear and see what others would do. Maybe they had a better idea.
Thanks for everyone's posts and ideas.
You havn't posted an idea. Just trolling for others to make your bonsai.
What is your skill level?
Can you graft?
Can you layer?
Can you chop successfully?
Can you prune for ramification and have you done it on other trees?
Where would you like to see this tree in five years?
Maple Guru...whats up with that... you should be teaching us!
Posting lots of text on how to better someone elses tree take a lot of work. Importing photo's making lines and directional changes and reposting pictures. I could easily spend three or four hours in Photoshop designing your tree by the numbers and I have the trees at home to back up that statement. People want to know what it is they are doing for you. The long haul so to speak. So many people come here asking for help and are around a few weeks , get their feelings hurt by guys like me and then disappear. I have helped many people on this forum make trees and if you read all of that post by BVF you will see I offered much in the way of that tree. In fact go to the first page of that thread and look at the name that is the very first word of that thread.
tell us about yourself, your background, your experience...a few trees to look at.
and BTW, I would NOT do what the picture above shows as a first chop. JMO
You havn't posted an idea. Just trolling for others to make your bonsai.
What is your skill level?
Can you graft?
Can you layer?
Can you chop successfully?
Can you prune for ramification and have you done it on other trees?
Where would you like to see this tree in five years?
Maple Guru...whats up with that... you should be teaching us!
Posting lots of text on how to better someone elses tree take a lot of work. Importing photo's making lines and directional changes and reposting pictures. I could easily spend three or four hours in Photoshop designing your tree by the numbers and I have the trees at home to back up that statement. People want to know what it is they are doing for you. The long haul so to speak. So many people come here asking for help and are around a few weeks , get their feelings hurt by guys like me and then disappear. I have helped many people on this forum make trees and if you read all of that post by BVF you will see I offered much in the way of that tree. In fact go to the first page of that thread and look at the name that is the very first word of that thread.
tell us about yourself, your background, your experience...a few trees to look at.
and BTW, I would NOT do what the picture above shows as a first chop. JMO
I see your tree as being a medium to large tree when finished. As such, if it were mine, I'd square the roots away and plant it out in the ground next spring and let it grow for two years or so, then chop. I might chop where Brian indicated or I might chop a bit higher and see what pops on the trunk. Here's the thing... it's your tree.
You wonder why people get their feelings hurt and only stay a few weeks? Well, maybe its because the help you provide comes from a combative perspective; overbearing, degrading, and in your face kind of way. You usually will get a better response from people if you unclench your fist and open your hand.
My very first post on here and you are berating me.......claiming that my attempts to get advice is actually just trying to get other people to grow my trees for me. Implying that a simple ask for help is in fact an attempt to get someone to labor over the tree until completion. If this is the case, then the other people who have created threads with the hope of getting help are not really wanting advice, they are wanting someone to grow their trees for them. They are just lazy, right Smoke? Its not because they don't know and need help............they are just lazy human beings, right, Smoke?
When you have this kind of opinion of people, is it any wonder that people do not want to communicate with you? This shouldn't be a mystery to you by now.
My knowledge is limited Smoke, hence the reason for asking for advice. I know how to grow the damn things, but I do not know how to progress them into bonsais. There are a few progression series on bonsai on the internet(not many that go from seedling to bonsai) and Brian's is bookmarked as one of the best. Truly outstanding. He makes it look like he found it out while strolling through the park. He makes it look like there was no intention or growing the tree to "what he wanted to see in 5 years." He didn't make the tree into what he wanted, he let the tree grow and decided what to do at the end of each growth season or two based on the growth that was provided. Or so he made it look. And Yes, I hate him personally for it.
What is your skill level? Noob
Can you graft? Never tried, but if it doesn't work, I didn't lose a tree.
Can you layer? Yes
Can you chop successfully? Not really. If someone suggested I chop, then I was going to need more advice because you do it wrong and you might lose the whole tree.
Can you prune for ramification and have you done it on other trees? All trees are in early stages of development.........trunk, not ramification. So no!
Where would you like to see this tree in five years? I dont know. That's what I have a hard time seeing. I do not have the experience with trees to see what certain cuts or techniques do to trees over a long period of time. I have not taken 1 class or been to any demonstrations. I learn by doing and asking for advice along the way..........you know like a class or demonstration would do.
Posting lots of text on how to better someone elses tree take a lot of work. Importing photo's making lines and directional changes and reposting pictures. I could easily spend three or four hours in Photoshop designing your tree by the numbers and I have the trees at home to back up that statement.
Or you could have spent a few seconds with MS Paint(or some other program of your choice) like Brian did............and guess what? That actually helped. It actually helps to see that some expert was thinking very close to what you were thinking. It actually helped that Brian showed me where he would make the next cut. And Im almost positive that he didn't spend hours "designing by the numbers" to help such a newb like me.........who will typically run away after two weeks.
In other words, you could have easily helped with your plethora of knowledge, but chose to act like an ass instead. My question is..........Why?
My very first post on here and you are berating me.......claiming that my attempts to get advice is actually just trying to get other people to grow my trees for me. Implying that a simple ask for help is in fact an attempt to get someone to labor over the tree until completion. If this is the case, then the other people who have created threads with the hope of getting help are not really wanting advice, they are wanting someone to grow their trees for them. They are just lazy, right Smoke? Its not because they don't know and need help............they are just lazy human beings, right, Smoke?
In other words, you could have easily helped with your plethora of knowledge, but chose to act like an ass instead. My question is..........Why?
You havn't posted an idea. Just trolling for others to make your bonsai.
tell us about yourself, your background, your experience...a few trees to look at.
you could have spent a few seconds with MS Paint(
here would you like to see this tree in five years? I dont know. That's what I have a hard time seein
You wonder why people get their feelings hurt and only stay a few weeks? Well, maybe its because the help you provide comes from a combative perspective; overbearing, degrading, and in your face kind of way. You usually will get a better response from people if you unclench your fist and open your hand.
My very first post on here and you are berating me.......claiming that my attempts to get advice is actually just trying to get other people to grow my trees for me. Implying that a simple ask for help is in fact an attempt to get someone to labor over the tree until completion. If this is the case, then the other people who have created threads with the hope of getting help are not really wanting advice, they are wanting someone to grow their trees for them. They are just lazy, right Smoke? Its not because they don't know and need help............they are just lazy human beings, right, Smoke?
When you have this kind of opinion of people, is it any wonder that people do not want to communicate with you? This shouldn't be a mystery to you by now.
My knowledge is limited Smoke, hence the reason for asking for advice. I know how to grow the damn things, but I do not know how to progress them into bonsais. There are a few progression series on bonsai on the internet(not many that go from seedling to bonsai) and Brian's is bookmarked as one of the best. Truly outstanding. He makes it look like he found it out while strolling through the park. He makes it look like there was no intention or growing the tree to "what he wanted to see in 5 years." He didn't make the tree into what he wanted, he let the tree grow and decided what to do at the end of each growth season or two based on the growth that was provided. Or so he made it look. And Yes, I hate him personally for it.
What is your skill level? Noob
Can you graft? Never tried, but if it doesn't work, I didn't lose a tree.
Can you layer? Yes
Can you chop successfully? Not really. If someone suggested I chop, then I was going to need more advice because you do it wrong and you might lose the whole tree.
Can you prune for ramification and have you done it on other trees? All trees are in early stages of development.........trunk, not ramification. So no!
Where would you like to see this tree in five years? I dont know. That's what I have a hard time seeing. I do not have the experience with trees to see what certain cuts or techniques do to trees over a long period of time. I have not taken 1 class or been to any demonstrations. I learn by doing and asking for advice along the way..........you know like a class or demonstration would do.
Posting lots of text on how to better someone elses tree take a lot of work. Importing photo's making lines and directional changes and reposting pictures. I could easily spend three or four hours in Photoshop designing your tree by the numbers and I have the trees at home to back up that statement.
Or you could have spent a few seconds with MS Paint(or some other program of your choice) like Brian did............and guess what? That actually helped. It actually helps to see that some expert was thinking very close to what you were thinking. It actually helped that Brian showed me where he would make the next cut. And Im almost positive that he didn't spend hours "designing by the numbers" to help such a newb like me.........who will typically run away after two weeks.
In other words, you could have easily helped with your plethora of knowledge, but chose to act like an ass instead. My question is..........Why?
tell us about yourself, your background, your experience...a few trees to look at.
That is a question only you can answer. If you want a sumo shohin, go for it. If you want to make a bigger bonsai, make a bigger tree. If you want both, get another tree, then you will just have to decide which is which. But I should say that lowest existing branches on this one are too high for sumo - if you can make or graft at least one much lower ...
Isn't bonsai just a pain in the ass?
Decisions, decisions, decisions.
I am still fairly new here and have run into similar incidents as you on this forum. If you hang around long enough, will start to understand why this happens. When you are look at progressions from a few years ago, look at the commenters comment count and click on some of the lower counts "last seen march 2015" the month after they posted what you are looking at. There are a lot of short lived posters in this forum. I imagine it must get tedious to spend time helping and never hear what happens because they disappear.
While agree Smoke could have chosen his words better, he isn't wrong. You never posted what your ideas are. You could have outlined two or three or six ideas you had in your head and you would have much more likely gotten whats good and bad about each idea rather then this thread.
Your comment about laziness has a ring of truth to it. Unfortunately it is not in your favour. You haven't done your homework if you haven't looked at dozens, if not hundreds of similar trunk shaped trees. Read about hard pruning and trunk chops so much you reread pages not knowing if you have read that particular page before because you have read the same information so many other places, you read it again anyways looking for new tidbits of info. Same goes with root pruning. My point is you need to be able to defend yourself against the not so nice comments rather then being defensive.
I would love to hear what your original ideas for the tree were.