Quercus cerris/Turkey oak ground layer

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Has anyone had success on ground layering or applying tourniquet on turkey oak? Is it possible to create a new nebari with theese methods, or one should try graft saplings on it, or cut windows on the bark and burry it, to fill the gaps between the roots?
 

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Never tried, but why would you want to? The leaves on the turkey oak are huge, even if you could get them to reduce by half, they would still be quite large. Have you thought about a live oak, or maybe a saw tooth oak?
 

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Never tried, but why would you want to? The leaves on the turkey oak are huge, even if you could get them to reduce by half, they would still be quite large. Have you thought about a live oak, or maybe a saw tooth oak?

The one bought from a nursery last summer has leaves about 4-5 cm long. My so called master has a specimen with 3 cm long leaves. So to have a good looking tre out of it is not beyond hope
 

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The one bought from a nursery last summer has leaves about 4-5 cm long. My so called master has a specimen with 3 cm long leaves. So to have a good looking tre out of it is not beyond hope

1 inch leaves, that is small, are you sure it is a turkey oak? I have seen an English oak, which has a similar leaf, used for bonsai. The leaves reduce quite small, but still bigger than an inch.

Cool, well give it a whirl and make sure to post pictures of your progress. I don't have a clue as to how they layer, I haven't seen it done anywhere either. In my limited experience, I have found that younger trees, in general, are more receptive to ground layering. Trees with tough bark are harder to do and respond less, but as I mentioned, my experience is limited. Maybe your master could help? I would be interested in the results.
 

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Turkey oak leaves will reduce to under an inch, though there will always be some larger ones on the tree (mine at least). It's very similar to English oak, but less susceptible to mildew. Not quite as cold hardy. Development and ramification are very slow in a pot (for me at least). I find it develops a lot of mycorrizhae in the roots, meaning the drainage gets clogged quickly - take that into account when choosing a substrate. I've never tried layering one.

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I ditched the idea to layer it, and took the longer but safer route with two plates under the roots. I started to take shape.
The first branch will be reduced in length over time, I'm thickening it atm.
 

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Leaves are getting smaller
 

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