Tree ID help.

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Hello all! I bought these yesterday but wasn’t sure exactly what kind it was, I know one is a pine but I’m not sure what kind and it does not look like my black pine. The other one I’m thinking a Hemlock? I bought it from an old gentleman who doesn’t speak much English. Thanks in advance. Tommy 49BD0A68-245F-4D3A-8B8A-185C4600F245.jpeg070980C2-F292-47A4-B12A-09DA8B8E92AD.jpeg07212AB8-7542-4E15-9F68-490CF01D5679.jpegEE9F39B6-30BF-4BD8-B7D7-2281C311CFA1.jpegEE9F39B6-30BF-4BD8-B7D7-2281C311CFA1.jpegD2A14056-7154-47B0-9F31-C1938373E422.jpeg
 

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I am waiting till spring to repot those 2. Seems like the gentleman whom I bought them from is using generic soil mixed with river rocks, definatley not your typical loose bonsai soil.
 

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Hi,
Sorry to disagree with the others but the second photos of the 3 trees as group look to me like Dawn Redwoods (Metasequoia).
Them and Taxodium both grow real fast are both strongly apical dominant.
Have fun with these,
Charles.
 

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I agree with Charles. These trees have OPPOSITE branch pattern so they are probably metasequoia. Taxodium have alternate branch pattern.

The pine is definitely a 5 needle white pine but there are quite a number of species that are similar. It could be JWP but I don't know enough about how to differentiate between the different white pines to give any better ID for that one.
 

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I agree with Charles. These trees have OPPOSITE branch pattern so they are probably metasequoia. Taxodium have alternate branch pattern.

The pine is definitely a 5 needle white pine but there are quite a number of species that are similar. It could be JWP but I don't know enough about how to differentiate between the different white pines to give any better ID for that one.
If you want to be technical about the J.White Pine it falls into the catagory of Miyajima, being grafted onto probably a balck Pine base.
 

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Metasequoia and Taxodium are somewhat related. Metasequoia likes almost as much water as Taxodium. I have a Metasequoia submerged most of the summer in water. I'll take it out of the water now.

Styling the two for bonsai is very similar. Though I am pretty sure nobody outside of China knows from first hand experience what the ''natural'' form of Metasequoia is, except from photos, since the first Metasequoia planted in the west did not get here until after WW2. So the "flat top" usually recommended for bald cypress is probably not the right source for Metasequoia.
 

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Thank you Leo ? Do you bring yours inside in the winter ? I am in MD, zone 5A.
 

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My Metasequoia stay outside in my zone 5b winters. I take them off the bench, out of the pan of water, set them on the ground and forget them. They are very hardy, and mine are still in plastic pots.

My japanese white pines I also winter outdoors. I do move them to a shady spot, north side of a fence.
 

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Thank you! I have a patio with a clear roof in the back so I think I will move all of my outdoor tree under it to be away from the snow and such, do you guys think this would be a good idea or just leave them where they are uncovered?
 

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Personally I would leave them uncovered so that they would experience snow and such.
 

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Put your winter hardy cactus under cover - they hate being cold and wet.

Most trees need water over winter, I leave mine in the yard, to get snow and rain, so that I don't have to water. I want a winter break from watering. If you put them under cover, you will need to check on water.
 
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