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I’ve never had an issue with this Brazilian Raintree I’ve had it for about a year and just recently I have started to water with a pan underneath it which was not allowing the water to drain completely for up to a day at a time then the tree started to not open sleeps all the way in the daytime over the days the leafs would not open at all I just maintain normal watering but instead have taken out the dish and allow the water to drain freely because initially was thinking it was overwater took the tree out of its pot to see if there’s any root rot seems to be non-put it back and in a few days the leafs are dried up and are still green but dried and crunchy help what should I do defoliate? I appreciate all your help so much
 

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Welcome to the nut house! 🤪 You have come to the right place. Feel free to pour yourself a cup of coffee, kick your feet up and stay a while. Unfortunately I have no experience with BRT’s… BUT… I’m sure some one here with knowledge and experience will chime in and point you in the right direction. Also, it helps to add your location or your usda growing zone to your profile so the fine folks here can give you more specialized, location specific advice.
 
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here are root pictures!! I am in Colorado! 5525E893-C974-4638-B86B-E5A8002AB668.jpeg
 

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Please tell us how you water. I.e. what's your routine. When. How much.

Do you mean the longest sentence in the world didn't contain enough information?

Welcome to Crazy!

That post has less periods than one of them "new age women" folk.

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The roots look good and the soil looks good.
But yea. You did not say how often you water? It is very hard to overwater a BRT in that kind of soil and they are tropical so they like a lot of water. Dried, closed up leaves usually indicates not enough water for BRT.

Also where is this tree kept? Inside or outside?

Pro tip: put the pot on top of something in the pan so that it drains. During the winter, I have my BRTs in trays to catch the excess water but I put 2"×2" tiles under each corner of the pot so that the pot isn't sitting in the water. I also need to water them every day or every other day at the least, even in winter when their growth slows down for a couple months. And I water until water comes out of the bottom of the pot into the tray.

However, that said. I have left on vacations for a week and removed the tiles and filled the trays with water so the trees did not dry out. I have had no problem doing this whatsoever.
 

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A agree with @Paradox with the watering as I also leave my basically submerged when I go on vacation, so over watering probably isn't the issue. Did you miss watering for a few days? There is no need to defoliate, if the tree is dying to lose its leaves its very capable of shedding them quickly.

Good luck
 
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I have been watering about once every three days honestly I am in Colorado the weather has been around 80°F for the most part. I am watering with about a liter of water every time. Humidity has been low around 20%. Misting about twice a week!
 

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I have been watering about once every three days honestly I am in Colorado the weather has been around 80°F for the most part. I am watering with about a liter of water every time. Humidity has been low around 20%. Misting about twice a week!

I don't think you are watering often enough.
Try this: Take a chopstick or piece of dowel and stick it as far down into the soil as you can and leave it there.
Every day pull the stick out and look at it. Water the tree when the stick so ALMOST dry. Don't wait until it is bone dry or you've waited to long.
This is the best method to learn when your trees really need water.

As I said, BRT are tropical and don't like to get dried out. If the leaves are closed and its not raining, windy or at night then they are telling you then need water.
They close their leaves to conserve water from evaporation out of the leaves.

I have been keeping BRT for 8 years. I have much higher humidity than you do and my trees get watered every day in the summer, sometimes twice a day if its really hot.

My BRT:

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There's a word missing or something. Can you say more about that?

Sorry, didn't catch the typo

You keep the chopstick/dowel in the pot and check the stick every day by taking it out of the soil. When the stick is almost dry, it is time to water. If the stick is still pretty wet, the tree does not need water. You are using the stick/dowel as a low tech moisture meter.
 

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Has anyone had any experience with an underwatered Brazilian rain tree? Time line to recover and treatment in the meantime such as extra humidity? Should I pull off all the dried up leaves? I’ve heard you should because the tree waste energy trying to fix them. If you pull them off it can make the recovery faster!!
 

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Has anyone had any experience with an underwatered Brazilian rain tree? Time line to recover and treatment in the meantime such as extra humidity? Should I pull off all the dried up leaves? I’ve heard you should because the tree waste energy trying to fix them. If you pull them off it can make the recovery faster!!

You don't need to pull off the dried up leaves. What you heard is wrong. If they are dried up, the tree has already abandoned them to try and retain moisture in the trunk.

You dont need to provide humidity. Put the tree in an area that has morning sun and afternoon shade. Water it when it needs it and wait. Do nothing else. If it's not too far gone, it should start growing new leaves in 3-4 weeks
 
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You don't need to pull off the dried up leaves. What you heard is wrong. If they are dried up, the tree has already abandoned them to try and retain moisture in the trunk.

You dont need to provide humidity. Put the tree in an area that has morning sun and afternoon shade. Water it when it needs it and wait. Do nothing else. If it's not too far gone, it should start growing new leaves in 3-4 weeks
I appreciate your response. That was so helpful!!! Can you tell at all from the pictures how bad it may be? There are still a few leaves that aren’t dried up
 

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Have some patience, sometimes they take awhile to rebound. I had one that sat for months with no growth. Just when I was ready to give up the ghost, it started growing again.
 

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Also... in the photo it looks like when you pulled up the tree some loose soil came out in at the center and then you replaced the tree on top of the mounded sands. Tree roots sometimes stick to sides of clay pot as if it were part of soil.
 
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Also... in the photo it looks like when you pulled up the tree some loose soil came out in at the center and then you replaced the tree on top of the mounded sands. Tree roots sometimes stick to sides of clay pot as if it were part of soil.
What would you suggest I do in the pot to prevent this??? Is that a bad thing? The roots were very stuck to the pot
 

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Not a bad thing, just scoop up the sand that fell and put the tree back in, then put the sand back around the edges. Possibly a catch pot causes the clay to become more root friendly.
 

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I appreciate your response. That was so helpful!!! Can you tell at all from the pictures how bad it may be? There are still a few leaves that aren’t dried up

If some of the leaves are OK then it's better than if all the leaves were dry. The fact that some might still be ok is another reason to just leave them on the tree. The tree will take care of the dead ones by itself.

BRT don't like to dry out but they are tough trees.
I've seen worse but it is hard to tell from the pictures. Just resume watering when it needs it. Use the chopstick method I described!

As Carol stated, you need to be patient and not worry the tree further to death. It may take some time to recover and start growing new foliage
 

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I live in the tropics and BRTs are native here. I use a fairly organic mix and water at least once a day in the winter and as much as 3 times a day in the summer.
They are called "rain trees" because the coastal forests where they occur naturally are very humid all year round.
This one below is around 25 years old and is inside a greenhouse right now because we are getting a very dry spell at the moment. They need humidity.20211206_161136.jpg
 
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