I am doing through spray weekly with Abamectin(generic Avid) mixed with Malathion one week and Orthene the next etc. with an adjuvant for 3 or 4 weeks. The first spraying seems to have killed everything--I am supposed to follow with TeraSan for the crawler stage stuff but don't have it. Too cheap for Forbid but now I have found a small amount source for Forbid. Most say that's the stuff to use.