Pine Bark examples

Brian Van Fleet · Jul 22, 2012

Thanks. Surprising the reaction the Hachi gen is getting. The KY and Fred's Ondae have far better cork. This is the whole KY:

And, found this shot of the pine in post #2 above, from '08. Good for comparing bark development in the last 4 years.

rock · Jul 22, 2012

Adair M said:
Brian,

If (when) you ever decide to top that Hachi Gen, it would be worth the trouble to try to air layer it. It might not take, but if it did, Wow!

Your pines are fabulous! Thanks for sharing!

Yeah hear you go , easy !

Adair M · Jul 22, 2012

Dibs on the airlayer!

You guys are good!

fore · Jul 22, 2012

Adair M said:
Dibs on the airlayer!

You guys are good!

Agreed! That is impressive.

rock · Jul 23, 2012

Adair M said:
Dibs on the airlayer!

FUNNY NOW THAT i LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL TREE ALL I CAN SEE ARE TWO TREES

Sorry BVFLEET

Brian Van Fleet · Jul 24, 2012

rock said:
FUNNY NOW THAT i LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL TREE ALL I CAN SEE ARE TWO TREES

Sorry BVFLEET

Try looking at it every day! If it wasn't a corker, I would have separated it long ago. The question is will the bark still show as well in a 8" tall tree? I know I can get the needles to <1". If I leave the top, that long stovepipe section of trunks good for showing off the bark. All I know is I can still cut it off later...

Nice virt, BTW!

fredtruck · Jul 24, 2012

Yes! In a cork bark pine, displaying the cork is the point.

tmmason10 · Jul 24, 2012

I unfortunately have no pictures to add myself, but I'm sure we'd all love to see some more bark....

fredtruck · Jul 24, 2012

Ok, here's some bark. These pictures are of my Hayabusa, a JBP cork bark cultivar. What is interesting, at least to me, is how thick the wings are. I've seen corkers that have very thin wings, but these are well over .25" thick. Additionally, they are woven. They criss cross, rather than go straight up and down the tree like most corkers I've seen.

tmmason10 · Jul 24, 2012

fredtruck said:
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Ok, here's some bark. These pictures are of my Hayabusa, a JBP cork bark cultivar. What is interesting, at least to me, is how thick the wings are. I've seen corkers that have very thin wings, but these are well over .25" thick. Additionally, they are woven. They criss cross, rather than go straight up and down the tree like most corkers I've seen.

I really like this one, very nice.

Dan W. · Jul 25, 2012

Brian, do you mind if we share bark from other species, or do you prefer to keep this thread for JBP bark?

Brian Van Fleet · Jul 25, 2012

Dan W. said:
Brian, do you mind if we share bark from other species, or do you prefer to keep this thread for JBP bark?

Any pine is fine...it was started to demonstrate how pine bark develops over time...have at it!

Alex DeRuiter · Jul 25, 2012

Brian, thanks so much for taking the time to make this thread, and on seemingly short notice -- unless, of course, you had already been planning it.

Brian Van Fleet said:
And lastly, my oldest pine. This is actually the black pine stock portion on a grafted white pine. Peter Warren estimates it to be 70-75 years old, and it probably grows slower since the foliage moves at the rate of a white pine. Great texture. A club member visited my garden once about a year ago, and compulsively started picking at it. She hasn't been back. I wasn't nice, but I didn't hit... ;-)
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WHAT?!?!?! I cannot believe someone would do something like that! Even if it is a compulsive thing...how can you just start picking at someone's tree without even asking first?? Woooooooooowwwwwwww. Even my fiance said that's a huge no-no. lol

Brian Van Fleet said:
Now...onto corkbark pine bark. Alex, this is for you. Note the scaly patterns on the pines shown so far, and how they disappear after a few years? Look now at this shot of a Kyokko Yatsabusa corkbark black pine. The wired, horizontal branch in the foreground has to be 5 years old. See how the scales are still present?
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Now look at the trunk, the scales are still visible, on top of a chunk of bark that's 3/4" thick!
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Now that's what I'm talking about! I now see what you're saying about even the young branches showing those scales. Where did you get that one? Nice wiring, by the way.

Brian Van Fleet said:
Here is this Hachi Gen. A very-slow corking cultivar. Like the Taihei, the bark builds up slowly, in plates, chunks, or "tortoise shell" patterns, not in fissures or wings. This one is a cutting-grown tree, and while the base isn't great, it will all be corky someday, and it will improve. I should probably get this one out of the small pot and let it grow some more, but I'm really not in a hurry. BTW, this one came from Brent, and he has some 2-gal Hachi Gen here.

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I totally should've picked up some of those Hachi Gens from Brent last year...just didn't have the money for it. I need to get my priorities straight...we can totally go without gas for a couple months.

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Yes! That's what I was thinking, too. Brian has a point about showing off the bark, though...and yes, the cut can always be made later. ;-p

Brian Van Fleet · Jul 25, 2012

that's what I'm talking about! I now see what you're saying about even the young branches showing those scales. Where did you get that one? Nice wiring, by the way.

Thanks, though I wired it the wrong way and it loosened a bit when I twisted it. The Kyokko Yatsabusa came from Don at Gregory Beach Bonsai...he had several that he sold on eBay a few years ago, and I was lucky enough to snag this one. maybe he has some more that he'd post photos of here...maybe even with the price tags showing....hint hint...

Alex DeRuiter · Jul 26, 2012

Lol, I don't really seem him posting on any forums anymore. I'll just have to email him about it. I'm probably going to email Brent first, though, for one of those Hachi Gens.

tmmason10 · Jul 26, 2012

Alex DeRuiter said:
Lol, I don't really seem him posting on any forums anymore. I'll just have to email him about it. I'm probably going to email Brent first, though, for one of those Hachi Gens.

I have seen him post on Bonsai Study Group, but not here that I recall.

Dan W. · Aug 7, 2012

Hey Brian, sorry it took me a while to get to these. Here are a few examples from some of my collected pines.

Ponderosa:

Alex DeRuiter · Aug 7, 2012

Oh come on, Dan, don't be such a tease! We need full shots please.

haha -- very amazing bark on those. Do you collect in Wyoming?

Dan W. · Aug 7, 2012

Colorado Spruce:

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Dan W. · Aug 7, 2012

HaHa Alex! Sure thing I love collecting; I'm building a good sized collection and plan to start selling some in the near future. I will post full pics soon.... but those will wait until my website is finished...which should be soon...

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