Bonsai similar to an oak.

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What should I look for in a potential collected tree? Also I have no problem spending 10-15 years develpoing this particular tree.
 

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What should I look for in a potential collected tree?

Like you said, nebari and trunk.

You want a trunk with some degree of movement and taper. You can build the branching more easily and quickly than you can correct a poor nebari.
 
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I am a noob as it were to collecting from the woods but aren't all you are looking for is good nebari and a thick trunk? I read an article by a bonsai master and he tells his students "I don't grow trees, I grow trunks"

There are numerous characteristics that make a good bonsai. The more you can get up front, the faster you will be done.

True that trunk and nebari are the most important...but do not limit your self there if possible. If you can also get a few nicely formed and located branches, you can cut your training by half or more (could be years to decades saved).

Do not limit yourself...keep an open mind, you just might get lucky and produce a convincing oak tree bonsai in a year or two. At the same time, do not be too hopeful...realistically, it could also take 10 years.

Good luck!
 

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As if you haven't heard boxwood works, here's another.

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You could try a live oak to get a tree that looks like a live oak. ;) This one is just under two years from a 15gal nursery can. You can see the initial thread here.

http://bonsainut.com/forums/showthread.php?4751-Quercus-virginiana

Here are some quick cell phone pics from tonight.

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Clyde grace you are my Facebook friend aren't you? How'd you get such great taper on that tree in such a short time?
 

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How'd you get such great taper on that tree in such a short time?

If you get lucky, you can find them like that in nurseries...all you need to do is chop. They are not that uncommon (at least here) ;) I have a similar one but smaller that I got for $8.
 

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Yep Dario is right. In fact I was at the same landscape place today and they had Q. Ilex, Q. Suber and Q. Virginiana all for $18 marked down from $45. They weren't exactly what I wanted so I passed but they will do it again.

See landscape places want straight uniform trees. When they have some that have been around awhile they tend to bulge at the base, get broken apexes and so forth. Then you can make a deal with the manager because they will never sell them for landscape.
 
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Just a thought

What about air layering a suitable branch from the actual tree on the property. You could choose a limb that mimics the main trunk. Then he would have a bonsai from the ACTUAL tree!

Just a thought
 

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What about air layering a suitable branch from the actual tree on the property. You could choose a limb that mimics the main trunk. Then he would have a bonsai from the ACTUAL tree!

Just a thought


I am sure there are exceptions but according to Dirr and Heuser, Oaks are less than ideal subjects for asexual reproduction methods.
 
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Yep Dario is right. In fact I was at the same landscape place today and they had Q. Ilex, Q. Suber and Q. Virginiana all for $18 marked down from $45. They weren't exactly what I wanted so I passed but they will do it again.

See landscape places want straight uniform trees. When they have some that have been around awhile they tend to bulge at the base, get broken apexes and so forth. Then you can make a deal with the manager because they will never sell them for landscape.

Are u talking about a landscape place such as a nursery or do u mean like a Home Depot? I'm not exactly sure what u mean by that.
 

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Here are some example of Oak-like trees that I have. Two are Japanese boxwood (I think) and the other is, well, an oak. It will be two years until the oak is in a proper pot and fully wired.
 

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