Some Collected Pines

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All those trees are beautiful with amazing potential!

Rob

Thank you, that means a lot to me from someone with trees like yours.

Friend, you left a LOT of money on the table by selling that for a C note.

I understand that very well, it was worth just more than twice that, but I'm not worried. In my thoughts I basically just gave it away to a friend, and I legitimately thought of gifting it all-together. I know it will be in a better place in the end, where people will enjoy it. It served it's purpose to me, and in the end I come out on top. If it's still alive in 10 years it won't gain much more value than it has now. That's the problem with ponderosa, they develop so slowly. While that tree won't change much at all in 10 years after styling, every cutting I bought and the trees I graft will only gain in value. The person who has it now will style it and eventually repot, and then that's pretty much it for a long time until they sell it too. I'm not worried at all, it's too late anyway, so please don't make me second guess my decision. :)

My plan was to graft almost all the ponderosa I have that don't have naturally shorter needles. That tree had the longest needles of all, and grafting it wasn't really worth the hassle. It would be easier/faster to grow a JBP seedling to the same shape and trunk diameter (only better) than it would be to keep that one and graft it. The only thing that tree had going for it was the bark and it's age, which every ponderosa has. The branches were all long and meandering, the deadwood was nothing special, roots were pretty bad besides from one angle, and a key branch died because I didn't put in enough sun the first year. It still could have been styled as is and still make a tree to be proud of, but to make it the best it could be it had to be grafted, or sit around 10 years to get backbudding in places it won't happen anyway. Neither were worth the hassle on a $200 tree. It was a learner for ponderosa pines, that's pretty much it. It'll serve it's purpose again now. I lost money, but i'll get over it. In the future i'll be the winner. In 10 years that tree will be worth around $400, maybe more if it's in a good pot. At the same time, my dozen cuttings will be worth atleast 4x that. And that's not including the trees I'll graft with the money I have left over too. So although they won for now, really after I graft the first tree it'll all be even. I'm young, I'll make my money back.

I know I should have asked for more, but whats done is done, and where it is now is a good place. It's under good care, and I can visit it every now and then if I want. So even though it isn't mine, I can still watch it grow and progress for awhile, which is all I care about anyway.
 
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I figured I'd add an update on the trees i was having trouble with. The small exposed root is doing better, it sent out its needles well into the summer. I'm still watching it, but it's gonna live.

The tree that had the borer is doing very well but i'm still keeping an eye on it. I removed more dead bark, and cut the rim off the pot. It's still impossible to see the front because all the branches are in the way. The reverse taper is extreme in the angle i'm posting, but please realize it's not that bad from the front i have in mind. It was pinched between two rocks it's whole life, flattening out the base, a common problem in ponderosa pines. Both the trees posted here grew like this.

I'm wondering what everyone thinks i should do to hide the path the borer made... Carve it, leave it, or even hollow that part out?

I was thinking i would carve it all down to the level the borer left, make it look like it's a flat strip of wood, then add the details to make it look aged over time.
 

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This Annoyingus chikenus pine is the best of all!
Take good care of her!

Nice collected trees!
Bonsai in Greece is just starting going on all fours so no bonsai nurseries here. Nevertheless, some of us do collect some pines or junipers or carpinus and mostly wild olives, pistacchias, phillyreas.
I wish you the best with your bonsais.
 

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This is small tree, nothing special, but i'm still going to post it for myself in the future. I like the roots on this one, it looks like an alien leg and foot pushing the tree out of the pot. I plan to style the tree to follow the movement in the roots. I plan to somehow make it look even more alien-like.

I just bought it this year, on the same trip i got the ponderosa with the borers on. I'm having trouble with getting this one to grow well, so it's going to get a long time to itself so it can gain strength.

Agreed, great roots.
What fertilizer have you been using with this one? I'm curious as you said you've had problems getting it to grow?
Wonderful trees. I've been told I have to get over to Nature's Way son, I'm about a 2 hour drive from them myself.
 

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Maybe the Annoyingus chickenus needs a trunk chop. But seriously, your trees are beautiful. Looking forward to seeing where you take them.
 

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This Annoyingus chikenus pine is the best of all!
Take good care of her!

Nice collected trees!
Bonsai in Greece is just starting going on all fours so no bonsai nurseries here. Nevertheless, some of us do collect some pines or junipers or carpinus and mostly wild olives, pistacchias, phillyreas.
I wish you the best with your bonsais.

Thank you, and good luck with your trees over in Greece! I'm jealous of Europeans for your olive trees. Some of my favorite bonsai are Olives.

Agreed, great roots.
What fertilizer have you been using with this one? I'm curious as you said you've had problems getting it to grow?
Wonderful trees. I've been told I have to get over to Nature's Way son, I'm about a 2 hour drive from them myself.

I was using Green Dream and some other cheap 4-4-4 organic from Lowes. Over the past month I switched to Osmocote because it doesn't mess with drainage as much, but now I'm paranoid about over fertilizing and burning roots. I think the problem with getting it to grow was that i got it right after it arrived in the nursery, so it spent a couple days bouncing around in a trailer coming across the country before i got it.

And NW is a great nursery, 2 hours is worth it. I'm about an hour and a half away from them, but I've never been disappointed after the trip, even if i don't get anything. I plan to bring my camera someday, but i forget every time. There are some amazing trees there, and so much raw material. I like trees the most when they're right off the mountain, so NW is like a dream come true for me.

Maybe the Annoyingus chickenus needs a trunk chop. But seriously, your trees are beautiful. Looking forward to seeing where you take them.

Thanks, they all have a future ahead of them, but it's going to be a long time before they amount to anything.
 
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The last of my pines worth sharing here is this small Limber pine. Since collectible limber pine of this age and size are so hard to find, i think i got it for a steal. The reason it was so cheap is i have to wait a long time until the back-buds gain enough strength to cut back. Around a 10 year wait until this one will really be presentable. I bought it this spring, and just love the deadwood. I still can't believe the price... $85... You read that right... $85.
You can't beat Natures Way when it comes to collected trees.

This tree caused me to believe there is no native american species better equipped for bonsai than the Limber pine. In the short time I've owned it its back-budded all over. Also it has short needles, with the nicest blueish color I've ever seen. They do get nice bark on old trunks, but the problem is they bark up slowly. Many limber pine bonsai I've seen have nice bark for the first few inches up from the soil, then they are just flat white young looking bark the rest of the trunk. You just have to find one that's old enough for mature bark, and it's perfect. And to top it off they smell amazing. Those who own ponderosa will know the vanilla, almost baked cookie smell they get on hot days. Well, limber pine smell even better. They smell like the ponderosas, only they smell stronger and a little lemony. Besides larch, Limber pine is now my favorite species of tree.

Also pictured is the rare Annoyingus chikenus. This species of pine likes to scratch the soil out of other trees, and then lay eggs in the pots... :rolleyes: She hopped onto the bench to investigate the limber pine. She got real sad when i pulled it away, i think she wanted to fertilize it for me.

Yes I too am all to familiar with the Annoyingus Chickenus. That particular genus looks like Annoyingus Chikenus "Red Star". Which I had several of. Nice Trees
 
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