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Have you ever ordered from him?? If not why are you even making a comment.

If you have no experience good or bad, why does your opinion even matter???

LOL, if I ordered from him I'd post a photo of the tree and packaging to support my claim, otherwise all my talk would just be seen as a bunch of hot air...
 
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For some reason the picture I am trying will not upload to the site. I have posted pics in the past but for the last 2 weeks the pics won't upload
 

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For some reason the picture I am trying will not upload to the site. I have posted pics in the past but for the last 2 weeks the pics won't upload

That one steams like the others.
 
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I don't care if you believe me old man. Please don't bore the crowd with stories about Nam
 

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For some reason the picture I am trying will not upload to the site. I have posted pics in the past but for the last 2 weeks the pics won't upload

When I can't get pics to embed I use imgur.com and post the link. Its a very simple site to use.

I'm not injecting any opinions. I just want to see the tree.
 

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When I can't get pics to embed I use imgur.com and post the link. Its a very simple site to use.

I'm not injecting any opinions. I just want to see the tree.

Me toooooooooooooooooo.
 

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For some reason the picture I am trying will not upload to the site. I have posted pics in the past but for the last 2 weeks the pics won't upload
I will be happy to post any photos for you, if you would like. If interested, send me a PM and I'll reply with an email address where you can send them.

Chris
 
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pics coming soon, I sent to smoke he is going to try and post them for me.
 

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CAVEAT: While there are those that consider me a poo poo head, mostly I am tolorated because of the contributions to this forum. There are those that contribute content and there are those that come here and use it and contribute nothing. That is what a forum is for. Give and take. I am happy with that arrangement. What you all don't know is what goes on behind the scenes. What happens in the Al world of PM's. Most of the time my involvement in generosity to a fellow member with either pots, plants, advice, display objects scrolls and the like goes unnoticed and anonymous.

Now with that out of the way....the story.

The pictures I will post proove nothing. So with that an element of trust must be established. I am ashamed of some of the attitudes in this thread and the unceasing interest for someone to post a picture. Do any of you even know if this guy has a camera or a phone capable of producing pictures?
How many of you have a digital camera?
How many of you have been frustrated because you can't compress your photo to the image limits of this forum?
How many of you have been frustrated by sideways photo's taken with a camera and no software to turn them upright?

While I think posting a picture is a very good way to tell the story, there is no rule on this forum that one has to post a picture to be taken seriously.

Fifth Element posted ( 5e from now on) posted a thread on a maple he purchased, and asked for suggestions. I gave a suggestion.

http://bonsainut.com/forums/showthread.php?12897-Opinions-on-maple

For whatever reason, 5e decided to Pm me for advice, as dozens do here frequently, because they are too embarressed to air their inexperience with most of you guys. I asked many questions about price and location, which was not present in the maple thread. He asked for a place he could buy a maple more locally.

(Ignorence here) I assumed ne wanted to purchase a maple by going to a nursery to see material to purchase. I suggested the growing grounds since he lived in NC and GG is located in NC.

About the time I gave the advice, 5e started this thread about the Growing Grounds. It only took a couple posts before he was directed to the MARK TORRPA thread and all the bad experiences. I might remind all you haters out there that I have not seen any pictures of poorly packed and damaged trees to proove any of those contentions either. So I feel it works both ways. I remember a year or two ago my posts about Oregon Bonsai. I was railed against for talking smack about such a place yet I did post pictures of bone piles and tree on the brink of death, so at least I did post pictures backing my claim and I HAD BEEN THERE, HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE?

So.. I get a new PM stateing that he had a tree picked out and was ready for it to be shipped and now he has second thoughts. (Probably the reason it took longer to be delivered since Mark probably sat on it till that was resolved) That is speculation.

5E was not to happy with me for advising gg due to the thread. I let him know that I thought he wanted to see trees and not buy mail order but I was wrong. Had I known that there are many other people I would have reccomended. I do not buy trees mailorder. I touch everything I buy and have driven at least 400 miles before only to turn down a tree for whatever reason. I assumed and that was an error on my part.

Now the Op has stated that he indeed did get a tree from GG and that it arrived in good condition. He is happy with his purchase, END OF STORY.

Now all the new hatred starts because the guy won't post a picture that he may be incapable of doing. I read some down on your knees begging of a picture so sent 5e a Pm last night suggesting that he send me the pictures of the tre and I would resize them and post them for him. Thats the kind of guy I am you know humble and good natured.

What I did not realize again....assumed.... is that the pictures he sent me are the ones from the GG that was sent to him before he purchased the tree. So the pictures I show you are nothing more than pictures from a public web site that anyone can get. Due to the fact that we have PM'ed over two weeks to get this tree, I have no doubt that he indeed has the tree.

What you all have to do is decide if that is good enough, or is it worth beating this dead horse for a couple more weeks.
 

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Hilarious. You were on your high horse not too long ago about people posting photos to prove their bonsai abilities, but now everyone else is wrong because we want to see proof of something? Give me a break.

Specifically:

Do any of you even know if this guy has a camera or a phone capable of producing pictures?
He has started at least 5 other threads in which he posted photos, so, ummm...yes.

I don't even care about any photos anymore, I'd rather hear about how the tree was packaged. What kind of double boxing materials were used, was it packed with peanuts or something else, etc?

Chris
 

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Hilarious. You were on your high horse not too long ago about people posting photos to prove their bonsai abilities, but now everyone else is wrong because we want to see proof of something? Give me a break.

Specifically:


He has started at least 5 other threads in which he posted photos, so, ummm...yes.

I don't even care about any photos anymore, I'd rather hear about how the tree was packaged. What kind of double boxing materials were used, was it packed with peanuts or something else, etc?

Chris



***Yawn***
 

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LOL. Not up to your usual standards, but I suppose there's not much else to say when you're confronted with your own hypocrisy.
 

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I think people just want to see what the tree looks like after being shipped. Not stirring any sort of pot, but I think that's what they want. Not what the tree looked like before, but what it looked like after.
 

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LOL. Not up to your usual standards, but I suppose there's not much else to say when you're confronted with your own hypocrisy.

Plenty to say...your just not worth wasting it on....
 

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I think people just want to see what the tree looks like after being shipped. Not stirring any sort of pot, but I think that's what they want. Not what the tree looked like before, but what it looked like after.

You know Ryan.. sometimes you just have to step up to the plate and order a tree and then we can put this to rest. Somehow I get the feeling that this matters?
 
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