Twisted Pomegranate

small trees · Feb 20, 2014

I purchased this a couple days ago, and it hasn't arrived yet. I'm excited about it though, so I figured I'd post the pictures I have of it and see what you guys think as far as possible steps to take with it. I have a couple ideas but I'd like to hear what you have to say. One thing for sure is that the top 3-4" needs to go.

drew33998 · Feb 20, 2014

Good choice. I would have but with all the soil I had to buy for repots (30 pieces of material) I decided to forgo any new additions.

JudyB · Feb 20, 2014

Nice material. I would work with the second pic as your front, and keep all the branches on the right. It has nice structure, just needs work to make the top harmonious with that framework. And some time and ramification of course. But a good project. Wonder how the roots are under that soil.

small trees · Feb 20, 2014

drew33998 said:
Good choice. I would have but with all the soil I had to buy for repots (30 pieces of material) I decided to forgo any new additions.

Probably a wise decision. Although it's always tempting

JudyB said:
Nice material. I would work with the second pic as your front, and keep all the branches on the right. It has nice structure, just needs work to make the top harmonious with that framework. And some time and ramification of course. But a good project. Wonder how the roots are under that soil.

That's what I was thinking. I'll get a better look early next week hopefully. And maybe they won't need too much work!

CHUCHIN · Feb 20, 2014

Nice tree. These are really nice trees. I think I saw this tree from house of bonsai on eBay. The first pic shows the best front, roots look awesome from that angle and tapers well. Overall good material. Work them roots gently

Beng · Feb 20, 2014

From house of bonsai! I looked at that tree several times great roots and base. Looking forward to seeing it evolve.

Beng · Feb 20, 2014

I disagree about going gentle on the roots. I have a dwarf punica granatum shohin which is repotted every year to two when it aggressively fills out its pot. I cut back the roots as I would a trident maples with no issue. Just wait till you see red shiny tips coming from the buds and your (A OK.) Here's a pic of mine on the right side of this image from this past december "pre-bud break."

Ben

nathanbs · Feb 20, 2014

Here's the pile of roots after my pomegranates first repot.

Beng · Feb 20, 2014

nathanbs said:
Here's the pile of roots after my pomegranates first repot.

Nice why sphagnum on only one side what are you up to? Do you plan to someday remove the left trunk. The right one would make an excellent shohin.

nathanbs · Feb 21, 2014

No I changed the planting angle so the roots are very near the surface on that side only. I plan to develop it as a twin trunk and see how it goes. The tree is bigger than it looks, the right trunk is well over 8" tall

small trees · Feb 21, 2014

Both of you guys have some beautiful trees! How do you usually winter them? Keep above 40?

Poink88 · Feb 21, 2014

nathanbs said:
Here's the pile of roots after my pomegranates first repot.

Nice tree but I kept wanting to push it aside to see the tree behind it. Are those olive?

LOL

nathanbs · Feb 21, 2014

GeorgiaBonsai said:
Both of you guys have some beautiful trees! How do you usually winter them? Keep above 40?

pomegranates when dormant can go closer to freezing in my experience. This year we went down into the mid thirties and I didnt protect a single tree without any problems. Please note that although I have alot of trees like ficus, bouganvillea, etc I dont have any tropical tropicals like logwood those need protection below 40, ask Dario.

nathanbs · Feb 21, 2014

Poink88 said:
Nice tree but I kept wanting to push it aside to see the tree behind it. Are those olive? LOL

yes those are olives, gotta love olives.

Cadillactaste · Feb 21, 2014

Love the second photo...seems to make a great front as Judy suggested.

small trees · Feb 21, 2014

nathanbs said:
pomegranates when dormant can go closer to freezing in my experience. This year we went down into the mid thirties and I didnt protect a single tree without any problems. Please note that although I have alot of trees like ficus, bouganvillea, etc I dont have any tropical tropicals like logwood those need protection below 40, ask Dario.

I don't really mess with tropical trees too much. So far in my short bonsai experience I am sticking to normal deciduous varieties. Bu that's good to know; I was reading a little on care and it mentioned that they didn't tolerate cold very well.

Cadillactaste said:
Love the second photo...seems to make a great front as Judy suggested.

As soon as the tree gets in I'll try to get more photos and seek direction on how to approach styling as well as try to get a peek at the roots. If I do use the second picture as the front, there are a couple things that look like they need to be addressed, namely the straightness of the current leader/apex branch.

Something like this maybe:

Poink88 · Feb 21, 2014

GeorgiaBonsai said:
How do you usually winter them? Keep above 40?

I have several small pomegranates and I did not protect them this winter. Note that our lowest this year is low 20's though and we only had a few of those. I plan on treating my poms like Olives...provide protection only when we hit teens.

Poink88 · Feb 21, 2014

For front, the 1st pic for me.

The lowest branch might have to go though.

Here's a rough virt w/ initial clean up for your consideration..

small trees · Feb 21, 2014

Poink88 said:
I have several small pomegranates and I did not protect them this winter. Note that our lowest this year is low 20's though and we only had a few of those. I plan on treating my poms like Olives...provide protection only when we hit teens.

That's about how our weather has been except for one night.

Poink88 said:
For front, the 1st pic for me.

The lowest branch might have to go though.

I'm doing paint verts while I pass some time. So far I have

From pic 1:

With reduced top:

From pic 2:

small trees · Feb 21, 2014

Poink88 said:
For front, the 1st pic for me.

The lowest branch might have to go though.

Here's a rough virt w/ initial clean up for your consideration..

What do you think about reducing the top down to the next branch on the left and forming an apex from there? I meant to do it on my paint vert but I forgot lol.

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