Pine story
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Poink88
Imperial Masterpiece
Nice story.
I do not like the long main trunk right now, unless you can bend and change it. If this is mine, I might chop everything past the 1st main branch and develop everything from it.
I do not like the long main trunk right now, unless you can bend and change it. If this is mine, I might chop everything past the 1st main branch and develop everything from it.
No way to bend it now. Too thick.
I do see what you mean though. However that first main branch isn't where it LOOKS like back near the base.
That's a part of the branch that starts halfway up the trunk.
Otherwise it WOULD be great looking there.
I do see what you mean though. However that first main branch isn't where it LOOKS like back near the base.
That's a part of the branch that starts halfway up the trunk.
Otherwise it WOULD be great looking there.
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jk_lewis
Masterpiece
Poink88
Imperial Masterpiece
QuintinBonsai
Chumono
edprocoat
Masterpiece
Or jin that removed branch.[/QUOT
Tough to Jin a branch that's been removed ....
ed
QuintinBonsai
Chumono
Lol you know what I meant. Jin the branch instead of totally removing it.
Neli
Omono
I think it is a nice tree hidden in it and I agree with JKL suggestion...just jin the part of the trunk he deleted and wire it.
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
I agree it is a really good tree. It is not a Scots however, it is a Mugo. Of that I have no doubt. The needles are too soft for a Scots, and the bark is too light for a Scots. It is most definitely a Mugo. A Scots neglected the way you described would have sent out some long branches trying to escape, the Mugo on the other hand, becomes introverted and grows within its confines when circumstances forces it to adapt or perish. That's why they make good bonsai.
I see what you guys see.
Man, that would be one MONSTER hack and would bleed sap in gallons.
Plus I think it would take rebar to "wire" it as thick as it is.
It could still be Scots (or something) as it DID send out REALLY long branches very limber and I removed them when I got i t back.
The only mugo I had was a LOT smaller.
which was only begun when I sold the entire lot due to too much work when my wife died.
Man, that would be one MONSTER hack and would bleed sap in gallons.
Plus I think it would take rebar to "wire" it as thick as it is.
It could still be Scots (or something) as it DID send out REALLY long branches very limber and I removed them when I got i t back.
The only mugo I had was a LOT smaller.
which was only begun when I sold the entire lot due to too much work when my wife died.
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jk_lewis
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Probably not so much this time or year or in the fall. Often, "monster hacks" make the best tree -- Very Often!
I agree with jinning the branch stump, but my intent was just to point out where the tree shape was hiding. Decoration is up to you.
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
When you cut it leave at least a 1" stubb or as the wound heals it will take out the life line to that branch and leave a really ugly spot all the way to the ground.
It's a Mugo, but believe what you will, they are treated pretty much the same.
If I chop it I can see the potential in one pic.
However, the remaining branch has no limbs facing the way the trunk does now.
I could maybe wire limbs 1 and 2 to sorta come around and ...look... like there was some
tree in that space.
Aaaghh, just don't know if I'll just plain wreck the whole thing.
However, the remaining branch has no limbs facing the way the trunk does now.
I could maybe wire limbs 1 and 2 to sorta come around and ...look... like there was some
tree in that space.
Aaaghh, just don't know if I'll just plain wreck the whole thing.
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Poink88
Imperial Masterpiece
Those limbs can be easily "relocated" after. Have courage and do the right thing, otherwise, you will keep regretting your inaction for the rest of this bonsai's life. 
I will wait for the right time though and consult Vance if it is indeed a mugo. Whether you want a jin or not, do leave a stub. It can be very useful when doing heavy bending, else it can be removed or shortened easily later.
Good luck!
I will wait for the right time though and consult Vance if it is indeed a mugo. Whether you want a jin or not, do leave a stub. It can be very useful when doing heavy bending, else it can be removed or shortened easily later.
Good luck!
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
This is definitely a Mugo from you last pictures. Then keep it potted up until you have a good idea of what to do with it. There is no rule in bonsai that says you have to do it now.
If you mean branch bending by wiring, I've done that with trees quite a lot.
But I don't know a way to get a branch to ...emanate.... from a different place short of grafting and I'm not ready to try that on it.
I've air layered Acer. Can pines be air layered? There's that branch at the end of the trunk that would be right from the start. But air layering a pine?
But I don't know a way to get a branch to ...emanate.... from a different place short of grafting and I'm not ready to try that on it.
I've air layered Acer. Can pines be air layered? There's that branch at the end of the trunk that would be right from the start. But air layering a pine?
Txhorticulture
Chumono
Yes
Pines can be air layered, just like they canbe rooted. It just doesn't always work. Species that are easy to root should be easy to air layer. Harder to root , harder to layer. When i say easy and hard im referring to chances of success time to root.
Pines can be air layered, just like they canbe rooted. It just doesn't always work. Species that are easy to root should be easy to air layer. Harder to root , harder to layer. When i say easy and hard im referring to chances of success time to root.
