Got my Cold Stream Farms trees today

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A quick story about my recent Cold Stream Farms experience for anyone who is interested.

A little less then a month ago, I found myself desperatly wanting a new pre-bonsai tree to work with, that also can survive this bipolar weather that New England is always getting. The issue was, being brand new to bonsai, I had no clue what to get or where to start, and had the novel beginner idea I wanted to grow something from a seed or sapling. After sifting through endless posts here and websites, I decided to getting an American Larch. Since at the time there was a solid 5-6 feet of snow on the ground, and I was getting antsy, yamadori was out of the question, and I am on a limited budget, so buying+shipping a prebonsai larch was to rich for my blood. I began my search for another alternative, and found Cold Stream Farms.

For those that don’t know, this is a whole sale bare root trees nursary that sells many different types of trees, with no minimum order amount. Cold Stream lets you pick a size of the tree (<1’, 1-2’, 2-3’, etc.) and will ship it to anywhere in the continental US when they deem appropriate for your area of the country (depending on several factors listed on their website).

After browsing the site (which was simple to navigate and had a large assortment of trees) I decided on an American Larch and an Amur Maple sappling, both of the 1-2’ range, and placed my order on March 10th. The trees cost me $12 total, and the shipping was $11, but they will ship more trees for the same price. I received an invoice through email a day later to confirm everything, and sent them a response inquiring when the aproximate ship date would be. A day later their customer service responded saying that my order would ship on March 23rd and could change the date if needed, then it was a waiting game.

I received the trees today, in a nice package.
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The trees were secured to the box, and the roots were contained nicely in plastic bags with wet soil in them. While the trees were a bit twigy, I was very happy with everything as a whole.
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Removal was easy, and then it came down to potting the trees.
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Due to my current situation in a second floor appartment, I cannot plant them in the ground, so I decided on a large plastic colander. I made a 1-1-1 soil mix of chicken grit, a 50/50 pumice/Napa 8822 mix, and a 75/25 pine bark/soil mix after getting some advice from people here and also a local bonsai grower.

I thoroughly soaked them, and decided to bring them in for the night because the temperature will drop down to about 30F tonight, but starting tomorrow morning they will be permanantly located on a table on my porch facing SW, with any luck they will start budding soon.

Thanks for reading, I would love to hear any questions, comments, or concerns about what you all think!

Dan
 

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The good:
You did some homework, got trees that will survive your climate and seem to have a decent soil mix. Thats already more than most do, so good on you.

The not as good:
You got a long wait before those will be ready to be trained as bonsai and in my opinion need to go in the ground to get gains quicker although I know you said you couldn't.

Keep reading, get some money together and buy something further along development wise. There are lots of good people here who can help along the journey, I know they have brought me a long way from when I started not too long ago.
 
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Bonsai is what you make of it & what you enjoy out of it. I get a kick out of watching young trees grow like hell, although many may argue it isn't 'bonsai'. Screw them, 'tree in a pot' is a tree in a pot, even if its a young 'un.
 

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The Tamarack will surprise you with its growth. Probably the Amur maple too. I only have one of those but have a few larch. I fertilize every week in a mix somewhat similar to yours and get excellent growth in collanders.
Good choices also by the way.
 

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Nybonsai - I have been very hesitant about ordering bonsai/prebonsai stock online, because i tend to be that person who will inspect an item 28 times before I actually buy it. A day before writing my post though, I stumbled across a little hole in the wall bonsai nursary that was very close to my apartment. I picked up 2 very nice subtropical prebonsai to fiddle with, but I fear this might be potentially dangerous though, my little porch will soon turn into a scene from Jumanji.

Quiet and M. Frary - while to a purist, it may not be bonsai, I could care less. I am very excited to watch my twig with a tupee tamarack grow up, and also watch the Amur maple change colors through out the seasons (assuming I dont find a way to kill them between now and then), hopefully in a year or so I will move to a place with a nice yard that these two can grow big and strong in

Thanks for the input guys!
 

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Internationalbonsai.com offers a selection yearly of different bonsai starters. They are great to deal with and offer species good for bonsai at reasonable prices.

The species you chose are good for your region
 

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Nybonsai - I have been very hesitant about ordering bonsai/prebonsai stock online, because i tend to be that person who will inspect an item 28 times before I actually buy it. A day before writing my post though, I stumbled across a little hole in the wall bonsai nursary that was very close to my apartment. I picked up 2 very nice subtropical prebonsai to fiddle with, but I fear this might be potentially dangerous though, my little porch will soon turn into a scene from Jumanji.

I understand the hesitation with ordering online. There is a section here with links to vendors. Some are more favorable than others. Don Blackmond at Gregory Beach has quality stuff available for great prices. Brent from Evergreen Gardenworks is another you can trust to order from. As you are in Connecticut, you probably aren't too far from Mark Comstock's nursery. he has plenty of good stuff also and usually sells some on the Facebook Bonsai Classifieds, Bonsai sales pages. I think the name of the nursery is the Kingsville Grower or something like that. There are many more as well that can be trusted, but if you are unsure ask for feed back here. And soon you will have more plants than you can imagine!

Don't take my initial comments as poo pooing on your purchase. Growing young material out is a great way to learn the process and control the outcome. I'm doing the same thing and over the last three years have acquired materials in all stages of development to learn more about each phase.

Good luck and welcome to BNUT.
 

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Welcome and good choices from the start. Learning those two species will be great experience for you down the road and your confidence in keeping trees/plants alive. I would suggest you pickup different varieties as well as you go along. You will probably find it takes a few years but it is fun. Document as much as you can and record progress as well. You will then have guidelines for several species that you are successful with. At that point you will not hesitate to collect/purchase larger stock knowing you can keep them ;) As a cool bonus in a few short seasons you will have enough stock to consider some mixed forest arrangements as well. There are a lot of ways to go and obtaining species and keeping them alive is the basis of it all. Good luck with your new journey and feel free to pipe in with questions if you cannot find the answers in our search engine!

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Don't take my initial comments as poo pooing on your purchase. Growing young material out is a great way to learn the process and control the outcome. I'm doing the same thing and over the last three years have acquired materials in all stages of development to learn more about each phase.

Good luck and welcome to BNUT.

Oh not at all, I know you were just pointing out that these little guys won't be ready to do anything, but growing up, for quite some time.

Over the last few months I've acquired a handful of other bonsai/pre-bonsai to fiddle with, I've made the beginner mistake of getting little plants that will require a year or two before they are ready for potting tough. I'll have to check out Mark Comstock's place soon to get something I can actually tinker with.

Grimmy - oh don't worry I got excel sheets to document watering, record feedings, monthly growth, and other misc things for each plant. I am hoping to find trends and see progress, even if it is slow.

Thanks for all the info and links, I got a feeling my little tree collection will be growing into a forest sooner rather then later

Dan
 

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So I figured I would post a quick update on these little twigs, it has been about a month now, and these two guys have exploded with growth. For being nothing more then glorified twigs when I received them, to growing noticably almost daily, it has been an interesting thing to watch. I go to work at 7 and return in the afternoon/evening to find the maple will have more leaves, and just recently started to branch (I think). The larch is sprouting into something out of Dr. Seuss's, The Lorax, though it does not like to stand up straight, hopefully the scoliosis will disappear with age. I took a few pictures to show the difference in just 5 weeks of time.

The Maple
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Thanks Jeanluc, I already have. It's safe to say that me stumbling accidentally across sanctuary bonsai in the dead of winter this year is what got me into bonsai to begin with. With 3' of snow on the ground tho it was tough to appreciate what Todd has set up. He was very helpful for having a random person walk up without an appointment saying clueless, "I'm looking for a nice little tree"

It's about 10 mins away from me, which is a bit dangerous for my wallet, but I hope to go back this summer.
 

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That's great but you are right, very dangerous. Todd has one of my favorite trees, at least that I've seen in person. A pitch pine that was collected by Nick Lenz. For those that have Nick's book, Bonsai from the wild, its featured on page 112.
 

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Dan, if you are looking for pre-bonsai material you should definitely check out Mark Comstock (aka pre-bonsai Mark). He's in Old Lyme I think. You can look him up an PM him in Facebook. He has a good variety of species. His starts all gave great roots that are truly on the path to bonsai. His prices are reasonable. I have picked up some well established maples from him in the past year. Earlier this spring I ordered a "mystery box" from him. 14 starts for $100. It included 2 boxwood cultivars, a Japanese Red Pine, Japanese Maples, Junipers, Elms, Hinoki, and taxus.
All are now in nursery pots or pond baskets and doing great.
I had to put this little boxwood in a pot though because it just looked so good.
 

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One really nice thing about these little twigs is that NOW you can start wiring and shaping the trunk while it's still thin and limber. They have a way of getting stiff and hard to bend in just a couple of years. Good luck.
 

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I like to donate to the arbor day foundation and they send me packs of mystery trees i think twice a year. if i don't like them they can get planted in someones yard. theres always someone who would like a pink flowering dogwood out there
 
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