Pine species ID

Nybonsai12 · Sep 12, 2015

can anybody ID this for me? 2 needle pine, wonderful bark on this old tree, dropping some cones and some cones still green on it that I guess will drop in the next few weeks? I picked up a couple that were on the ground although I thiught if they were open, it's too late for any seeds. I was hoping black pine, but really have no clue and didn't think they were common as full size trees around here. Thanks in advance all.

Cypress187 · Sep 12, 2015

It's looks very good, also for climbing and stuff. I don't have a good relationship with pines so i don't know them all that well, so i can't help u Id it.

garywood · Sep 12, 2015

NY, check Pinus resinosa, red pine

0soyoung · Sep 12, 2015

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/main.htm

Nybonsai12 · Sep 12, 2015

Makes sense and likely have a match with resinosa in which case I'm pitching the cones to my son to smack with a whiffle ball bat. That bark sure was flaky though and I didn't think it seemed as red.

William N. Valavanis · Sep 12, 2015

ne you photographed is Austrian pine, Pinus nigra. It has longer needles than most Japanese black pines and is much coarser. The twigs tend to be thicker (not good) than Japanese black pine too. It is, however, MUCH more winter hardy than Japanese black pine. They do not produce many buds.

They develop quite slowly for bonsai and are not commonly seen because it takes a lot of work. There is a dwarf cultivar, 'Hornibrook', which grows quite congested. The needles are just a bit shorter than the Austrian pine species. Below is one of my Hornibrook Austrian pine bonsai which I've been training from a young graft for about 45 years. Please note the needles have been reduced by more than half with training techniques and containerization. You would not want to reduce the needle size until the desired form has been developed.

Bill

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qwade · Sep 12, 2015

Yep The cone is unmistakable. P. Nigra

JoeR · Sep 12, 2015

How and when do I collect pine cones for seeds? Specifically virginia pine. Cant reach first branches.

qwade · Sep 12, 2015

Bill
Nice Nigra. Have nursery stock in situ. Not the dwarf cultivar. Not sure I would achieve that level of needle reduction

qwade · Sep 12, 2015

JoeR said:
How and when do I collect pine cones for seeds? Specifically virginia pine.

In my area . Best time is mid October. P. Virginiana Cones usually open late October.. You could actually start collecting end of this month. However I would wait until the 15th of Oct.

Nybonsai12 · Sep 12, 2015

Battttteerrrr upp

JoeR · Sep 12, 2015

qwade said:
In my area . Best time is mid October. P. Virginiana Cones usually open late October.. You could actually start collecting end of this month. However I would wait until the 15th of Oct.

Do they have to come off the tree or can I find the ones on the ground if theres soke that havent opened yet?

sorce · Sep 12, 2015

JoeR said:
Do they have to come off the tree or can I find the ones on the ground if theres soke that havent opened yet?

Chances of the bugs not having got to them goes up as you go up!

Get a remote controlled helicopter!

Sorce

Eric Group · Sep 12, 2015

William N. Valavanis said:
ne you photographed is Austrian pine, Pinus nigra. It has longer needles than most Japanese black pines and is much coarser. The twigs tend to be thicker (not good) than Japanese black pine too. It is, however, MUCH more winter hardy than Japanese black pine. They do not produce many buds.

They develop quite slowly for bonsai and are not commonly seen because it takes a lot of work. There is a dwarf cultivar, 'Hornibrook', which grows quite congested. The needles are just a bit shorter than the Austrian pine species. Below is one of my Hornibrook Austrian pine bonsai which I've been training from a young graft for about 45 years. Please note the needles have been reduced by more than half with training techniques and containerization. You would not want to reduce the needle size until the desired form has been developed.

Bill
View attachment 81970 The pi

Amazing tree Bill, thanks for posting! Never seen an ABP of this quality before.

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