Colander Vs Flower Pot

Brian Van Fleet

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What was this planted in? Soil wise?
Collected from a rock with sandy silt:
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Wrapped in burlap:
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Stuffed in a wood box:
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And packed with coarse recycled soil. Lots of akadama, lava, pumice, haydite, and chicken grit. 21 months later:
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Yes. There was a layer of coarse rocks at the bottom.

Thinking bout drill in holes .

Sorce
you should find a way to put a mesh at the bottom instead of a whole layer of concrete.
I was thinking about doing something like this next winter for spring repots.
 

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you should find a way to put a mesh at the bottom instead of a whole layer of concrete.
I was thinking about doing something like this next winter for spring repots.

I have to have the weight. Well, unless I pin them all back......

Sorce
 

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The weight is not a big issue as long as you put a couple of stretchers accross the bottom and or use hardware cloth which is a lot stronger than screen.
 

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The non fally offy weight is what I need,
Unless I pin em all back.....
Like so.20151101_124842.jpg

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It's a long fall!

I could have tied em back pretty easy I guess.....

But any excuse to play with concrete and make a mess!

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Sorce,

just check the distance of the airpot holes, and cast the concrete with that information.

Still have the non fally offy weighty, but it can root prune.
Airpotty is cheepy on Amazon, especially the littlely oneee.
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But; When you remove the tree from the smaller colander you are required to eliminate all of the roots that grew out into the parameters of the second colander. That's a lot of good fine roots that you have sacrificed, ---needlessly in my opinion.
"To catch the tiger, one must come into it's cave"
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At the end of August I planted out my 2 Japanese black pines into colanders. I am especially happy with the growth over the last 3 months with the one JBP that I had grown from seed. I can see loads more growth happening on it this growing season now that it is in a colander compared to other seasons.
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I am growing them in 2 colanders but I have been advised that I should be removing the smaller of the 2 colanders as 2 colanders is a flawed method. I still need to get round to that.
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Dorian,

test the idea, and then see what you reason out.
On our side, it is looked at as a lazy man's way of providing more soil.
I will let you know if anything else is observed.
Good Day
Anthony
 

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I plant all my collected material in pond baskets. I have also designed and 3D printed an air pruning pot in a more conventional bonsai pot shape. In the spring I will plant one of my trees in it.
https://www.shapeways.com/product/LVS8KGMJB/bonsai-pot-with-air-pruning-base-and-sides

The holes are tapered too? That nice bro. Don't mind my rant here. It's not about you!

@Vance Wood , You see that?

Printed pots. The Man don't give a shit about a patent. Now, anyone can copy anything. I'm glad you made it to see this.
(Read. Smell the BS.)

You know, I was thinking about it the other morning......
The state of Inventing. .......you can only do it if you are rich.........
And we know creativity lacks, when you don't need for anything........

So what happens to Great Ideas, will we see anymore Teslas, Edison's, etc.......

Did our next leader of World Peace already get killed in Chiraq, Detroit, etc.....

It frickin kills me.........

Our progress. ......halted, by greed,,,......
And outright stupidity!

Cheers to you Vance!
Your Humble Wins in my Book!

Sorce
 

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Peter,

this how we reasoned it out. Stainless steel mesh, folded and woven back to fold into a rectangular growing pot.
This pot can then be placed into a Bonsai pot for exhibition.
When not on exhibition, you continue growing, as an air pot.

This tree is an example of a few we have using the idea written above.
More power to you.
Good Day
Anthony

Fustic sits in a mosquito screen with soil added around. 12" tall.

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The holes are tapered too? That nice bro. Don't mind my rant here. It's not about you!

@Vance Wood , You see that?

Printed pots. The Man don't give a shit about a patent. Now, anyone can copy anything. I'm glad you made it to see this.
(Read. Smell the BS.)

You know, I was thinking about it the other morning......
The state of Inventing. .......you can only do it if you are rich.........
And we know creativity lacks, when you don't need for anything........

So what happens to Great Ideas, will we see anymore Teslas, Edison's, etc.......

Did our next leader of World Peace already get killed in Chiraq, Detroit, etc.....

It frickin kills me.........

Our progress. ......halted, by greed,,,......
And outright stupidity!

Cheers to you Vance!
Your Humble Wins in my Book!

Sorce
Didn't Vance's patent expire?
 

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I am growing them in 2 colanders but I have been advised that I should be removing the smaller of the 2 colanders as 2 colanders is a flawed method. I still need to get round to that.

Dorian it depends what your reason was/is for doing that. Care to elaborate on that?


Here is another example of why I put a colander in the ground. These two roses I removed a month ago from my front garden. They were in the ground for about 13 years. Exactly the same colour. Small single pinkish flowers. Ideal for bonsai I think. When I dug them up there was almost no fine rooting. In fact the thick roots that came out, was in a terrible state. Black and looking horribly unhappy. I had to remove almost everything that looked like a root from both of them. Both were basically bare down there.

The one on the right was in the worst state. I decided to put that one into the pot full of holes, and put it into the ground, thus giving it the best chance for survival. (in hindsight I should've done that with both of them)

I removed the pot from the ground yesterday, washed it off and photographed it. Its back into the ground again. The left one I didn't want to disturb, so I drilled some holes with a diamond drill around the bottom half, and that is into the ground now to....Now it will start growing :)

Look at the growth the one in the ground put on compared to the one in the pot....;)

That illustrates my reasoning for putting a colander in the ground. When I want growth, I give it to Mother Earth. She knows best. Plants don't want to be in containers. Especially plants under stress, that has been dug up from the ground. The best way to help it settle into a container, is to put it into a colander in the ground.....!

Take it out from time to time and manage the roots. That roots is in bonsai soil, so it will divide and fill the colander inside. Well fed inside off course. After a time it comes out the ground permanently and can stay in the colander above ground...

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Here is another two that needs Mother Earth... The one on the right is not moving as it should/could. I need to fill the top, but it grows to slowly. The problem is now that its in the ground it will take off and grow to coarsely, but I will manage that by lifting it regularly to try and contain that as best I can.

The one on the left I dug up because its planted in the wrong spot in the garden. The wind is terrible and kills the leaves there. I'll use it to make layers from it the next few years......:p

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Pictures of fine feeder roots from ground grown trees would be nice.
What you are doing is the same as just planting trees in the ground.
 

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What you are doing is the same as just planting trees in the ground.

Depends what you want. Its in bonsai soil, so you're developing fine roots to (if you manage it) In the ground it comes out filled with soil and usually the fine roots is lost...!

Pictures of fine feeder roots from ground grown trees would be nice

I'll put up pics for you when I replant it next year, but it looks like roots coming out of bonsai soil...
 

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Like a mat of roots. Fine feeder roots. Horizontal to the edge of the colander. Full.
In the spring since you will be showing yours I'll show mine.
I'm curious is all.
 
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