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@Vance Wood or anyone having a clue - I have noticed white "specks" at the base of needles and around buds. Is this normal, like sap or something? The reason I ask is it seems to be growing ok but being my only and first small Mugo I have no clue and have not found it discussed... Thanks in advance!

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Grimmy
I see what you mean, but the picture is not detailed enough. Try to Google pine wooly aphids/scales and compare.
 

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@GrimLore @Vance Wood Pretty sure he's talking about these. I have the same thing on mine where the new growth is and we're pretty much in the same zone. I just noticed it earlier this week, but I did just start looking at a top-down view of my tree at the same time so I figured I just never noticed it before.

The sap on some of the cut stubs also is a white glaze now instead of an amber color. I'll run down and grab some close-up pics of these.

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Hard to say from the picture, two possibilities:
1) white needle fascicles (sheets?)
2) wooly aphids...just check if it looks like dry foam or cotton wool. Can you remove it mechanically? I deal with it always bringing collected scots home, removing physically by hands or stream of water and then spraying with the same insecticide I would use to kill aphids.
 

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Photos of mine... same issue as @GrimLore?

The sap is like a glazed sugar and it appears that same material is on the buds and newer needles. We've had some very heavy rain lately and it's cleaned up a little bit.

Older growth is generally unscathed.
 

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Photos of mine... same issue as @GrimLore ?

The sap is like a glazed sugar and it appears that same material is on the buds and newer needles. We've had some very heavy rain lately and it's cleaned up a little bit.

Older growth looks generally unscathed.
This is a dried pine resin in this case.
 

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This is a dried pine resin in this case.

Thank you as I have tried some treatments but still shows up :)

Photos of mine... same issue as @GrimLore?

The sap is like a glazed sugar and it appears that same material is on the buds and newer needles. We've had some very heavy rain lately and it's cleaned up a little bit.

Older growth is generally unscathed.

Same here, I don't "think" it is a problem, far less then to much rain causing the brown needle tipping. Thank you, I am just going to let it ride ;)

I have grown a LOT of plants but never a Mugo or any Pine potted so just being overly cautious :oops:

Grimmy
 

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...and yes, too much rain and the resin looks like sugar.
 

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Finally got around to getting some wire on this guy, It has the same white crustys at the buds like stated above... it was purchased a couple months ago, pruned to allow light in last month, and now some branches are closer to "in place". I got tons of buds bumping, so I can chase back some next summer, thin out somemore, and sort out my apex then, the bottom branch will come off next summer as well as one if not both of the back branches that are still part of knuckle in one spot behind the first branch on the right. And the other one is part of the same branch making up my bottom left branch maybe that one can be shortened to make up some back branching and not fully removed, like I said it's budding all over the branches. (not the sacrifice branch at the bottom) or is it sacrifice? I've considerd maybe trying a semi cascade out of someday. I guess we'll see what next summer bringsIMG_20160817_181347443.jpg
 

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From the picture kinda looks like the knot formed a revers taper.

Or it could be just the angle but I like it look.

If it were mine I think I'd air layer it right at the knot though.

You could have a sumo and a semi cascade or and informal upright :).

Just my 2 cents. But ether way I like it.
 

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I hope the couple of late cutters and recent Mugo wonderers are following this thread.

Pretty sure I reported(yes, actually reported!;)) on cut date.

A rough 2 weeks ago?
(august 7th. Page 56!)

Peep the Bizuds!

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Been no needles.
And no visible buds.

Toot toot!

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Thanks guys I am truly humbled. By the way I have not been ignoring you, I have been out of town for a couple of days to attend my wife's Uncle's funeral. The good guys die young, and this was one of them.
 

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Hi, everyone! You have been all very helpful as I start my journey into Bonsai.

Today I was working on my Mugo that I've posted on here. I just bought it this year so I'm still in reduction phase of this guy.

Here's how he looked about 8 weeks ago.

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You guys suggested that I keep reducing to show some more of the branch structure, so I did a little bit and here's how it looks today, with a slight temporary modification with my hand.
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The right trunk curves backward away from the viewer (in this view) and is the coolest feature on the tree, but that center trunk is too straight and supports a 6-branch knuckle. An idea that I'm bouncing around in my head is to take the entire top of the tree off and regrow from the branch my thumb is supporting as the new leader.
 

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As to reducing down that left branch? Been there done that. Doing that will open the tree up for a possible and even more drastic choice, but there is time for this stuff.
 

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Thanks, Vance.

Follow-up question: My tree is has some little green backbuds on that I assume are the buds setting for next year, but I still have bright green new needles emerging on my tips of existing branches. Is it too late to cut back the tips to try to encourage back budding on my bare trunk areas? The left branch is pretty bare.
 

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Thanks, Vance.

Follow-up question: My tree is has some little green backbuds on that I assume are the buds setting for next year, but I still have bright green new needles emerging on my tips of existing branches. Is it too late to cut back the tips to try to encourage back budding on my bare trunk areas? The left branch is pretty bare.
If I understand what you are saying is that you have new buds forming and you still have fresh new needles emerging on the existing tips. Those emerging needles are from the occasional second flush that sometimes occurs in young Mugos that are in good health. Yes you can cut back the tips but mostly this time of year I will just de-bud the strong points of the tree. Those mostly on the ends of the major branches. You also need to remove some of the needles to expose the interior of the tree to some day light. Remove the needles from the upper portion of the branches and remove the needles from the lower portion of the branches. If you do this properly when you look at the end of the branch, as though you intend to poke it in your eye, it should look like a bow tie. It is best to remove those excess needles by cutting them with scissors.
 

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You need to remove/cut off all the downward facing needles (needles growing on the undersides of the branches) ASAP, this is necessary to provide light for the buds on the trunk and branches that need to be encouraged. Please get that done soon as possible. You know where this tree is going but I cannot tell because there are just too many needles.
 

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this time of year I will just de-bud the strong points of the tree. Those mostly on the ends of the major branches.
I assume this is on trees that were not repotted this summer? Or if it has bounced back, pushing buds, and seems healthy since the repot is it okay to apply this technique? I have some of each so I'm ready to work em.
I'm not sure why but I'm obsessed with mugos lately. Maybe it's the small needles, and the shohin possibilities in just a few years that I'm envisioning. I've literally cleaned out Lowes and homedepot.
 

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As far as I am concerned the Mugo Pine is the best Pine for bonsai. As far as debudding a tree I will debud a tree that I have repotted the same year if the tree looks healthy.
 
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