Yamadori style a different perspective.

armetisius

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Oh, sorry...Oh, yes... I have conversations with myself! . . .

Sometimes it is the best source of conversation around

Oh, sorry... Sometimes the drugs help! Lol!!

And on those days they don't?

{"We are on the scene or a multi-residence mutilation . . . film at 5.
Back to you Jane."}??????????
 
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I've seen yamadori shrubs and bushes (Sage, Junipers) on the Greek islands which would make you wet your pants. I'll bore you with some:

DSC07208 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

Sage
DSC07225 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07299 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07215 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07575 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07160 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

Junipers...
DSC07180 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07268 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07290 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07425 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07464 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07467 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07476 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07509 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07555 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

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I've seen yamadori shrubs and bushes (Sage, Junipers) on the Greek islands which would make you wet your pants. I'll bore you with some:

DSC07208 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

Sage
DSC07225 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07299 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07215 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07575 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07160 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

Junipers...
DSC07180 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07268 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07290 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07425 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07464 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07467 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07476 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07509 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07555 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07578 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

00060 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr
Wow, cool place!
Lovely nature.
 

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I've seen yamadori shrubs and bushes (Sage, Junipers) on the Greek islands which would make you wet your pants. I'll bore you with some:

DSC07208 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

Sage
DSC07225 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07299 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07215 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07575 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07160 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

Junipers...
DSC07180 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07268 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07290 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07425 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07464 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07467 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07476 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07509 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07555 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

DSC07578 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr

00060 by Jerry Norbury, on Flickr
You mean Rosemary, not Sage, right?
 

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Lol!!
I suppose we could instead try dumping shovelfuls of snow on our trees, setting fans up next to them to simulate wind, etc. It might be difficult to simulate the drier air of the mountains or higher UV exposure though.
Ha, ha! Those are the exact conditions in my yard!
 

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@wireme how about you share some progression shots of the cedar you entered into the contest? You did an amazing first styling on difficult garden center material, seems like it could add to this thread. It could help bring the discussion back to styling regular nursery stock into interesting yamadori styles. Just an idea!;)
 

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@wireme how about you share some progression shots of the cedar you entered into the contest? You did an amazing first styling on difficult garden center material, seems like it could add to this thread. It could help bring the discussion back to styling regular nursery stock into interesting yamadori styles. Just an idea!;)

I'll see what I can do, gotta go cut down some trees before spending more time replying to threads, firewood season!
 

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Oh, sorry...

I was talking about your statement about how you like the little trees from the moutains because the look like little trees from the mountains, and they are not trying to be miniaturized versions of big trees in the valley.

And so, what I was saying is the little tree in the mountain would grow like the big tree in the valley if it were transported and planted there. I just just a cascade as my example for a talking point.

Oh, yes... I have conversations with myself! Sometimes the drugs help! Lol!!

Ha, thanks and don't worry about it, happens to us all.
 

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@wireme how about you share some progression shots of the cedar you entered into the contest? You did an amazing first styling on difficult garden center material, seems like it could add to this thread. It could help bring the discussion back to styling regular nursery stock into interesting yamadori styles. Just an idea!;)

Thanks Wislon glad you like it, here you go. image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg Pics after that were taken with my GF's phone, I'll go wrestle her for it.
 

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So to relate the tree above to what I was trying to say in the thread I could ask myself, how large would this tree be in nature? I'm not sure, have to admit that the thought never crossed my mind while working on it.
If I look and decide I'm after a 20'er I might develop differently than a 100'er.

The tree itself is around 1' tall. What if I decide I want to style it after a 1'tall stunted tree like you would find in the cliffs of the niagra escarpment? ( still using wire, bonsai techniques and maybe an idealized visually appealing appearance) Crazy idea? Maybe.
A lot of these images could overlap, the 1' image may also look like an ancient big old thing. In some cases as Aaron said the image may never jive with anything large but they still are real and amazing trees.
This especially true for mame bonsai. There is really very little resemblance to big trees but for me these trees are just marvels.
I shortened to above quote, if the meaning/message is altered that's my fault sorry.

Maybe accepting that they are very small trees modelled after very small trees rather than large ones we could open the door to some more oddball designs? Rule breakers.


It's not important to me if people share or approve this view or even how much I will pursue the idea myself, just some musings.
 

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When you look at this, does it evoke memories?

This, I think, is the point, not a literal image per se.

Sure, if I step back and squint enough. Needs development time of course.

How would you feel about trying to evoke memories of something that's only knee high with a piece of material?
 

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How would you feel about trying to evoke memories of something that's only knee high with a piece of material?
Well, I am so challenged that I am happy if looking at my trees doesn't evoke revulsion, disgust, nausea, etc.

So, what are the key feature(s) of your focus when looking at that knee high tree? My belief is that if you put it/them in your design, you will 'see' that knee high tree in the wild, pretty much regardless of the size of your actual bonsai. IIRC you have a little spruce (or was it a Dougie?) that I commented made me think of a tree growing out a cliff face overhead and that I thought you should find a rock to enhance this - it evoked a memory of mine. My eyes saw your rather ordinary little tree while emotionally I relived feelings from my experiences = I like that little tree :cool:. I think it was because of the sweep of the trunk and how the foliage was (or seemed to be) mostly on the backside of the trunk.
 
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Well, I am so challenged that I am happy if looking at my trees doesn't evoke revulsion, disgust, nausea, etc.

So, what are the key feature(s) of your focus when looking at that knee high tree? My belief is that if you put it/them in your design, you will 'see' that knee high tree in the wild, pretty much regardless of the size of your actual bonsai. IIRC you have a little spruce (or was it a Dougie?) that I commented made me think of a tree growing out a cliff face overhead and that I thought you should find a rock to enhance this - it evoked a memory of mine. My eyes saw your rather ordinary little tree while emotionally I relived feelings from my experiences = I like that little tree :cool:. I think it was because of the sweep of the trunk and how the foliage was (or seemed to be) mostly on the backside of the trunk.

I've never thought you challenged! Just saying just in case.

Thanks, I doubt I will ever try to achiever the feeling of a 1'er but you never know. If something does evoke the memory of one of them rather than a big guy maybe that's quite alright, it's still a real tree.


That's a little spruce, I think it'll be ready for its first complete wire job next year, I plan to repot the following year, I'm keeping an eye out for a stone like you suggested, that would be great.

Here's some Doug Fir, smallest to largest. image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpg
 
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Interesting, it is all about Design.

Mathematics hidden in Art.

Your eyes delight, enters the head and the heart [ memory ].

A tree can have any shape in response to it's outdoor conditions, and as long as it delights the eye / brain /heart,
well that's fine.
Health, then Design = Bonsai
Good Day
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