JM Identification request

ajm55555 · Mar 24, 2017

Does anyone have an idea of the name of the cultivar of this Japanese Maple?
If it's too early to say, I'll post new pictures when the leaves have unfolded.
Thanks!

AlainK · Mar 24, 2017

Hard to tell so far, but the lobes are not deeply cut, a bit like A. Japonicum or A. shirasawanum.

Maybe an A. palmatum from the amoenum group...

Dav4 · Mar 24, 2017

...or it could be just the regular old species, A. palmatum,...

ajm55555 · Mar 24, 2017

Thanks for your opinions. The trunk seems like the regular Palmatum but the shape of the leaves is still a mystery. I'll post more pics and one of the label as soon as I find it....
This is not being downsized to a bonsai though. My wife likes it like it is ;-)
I'll probably airlayer a crossing branch, we'll see!

Dav4 · Mar 24, 2017

Show us the leaves after they've hardened off... they may look a lot different then they do now.

ajm55555 · Mar 24, 2017

Dav4 said:
Show us the leaves after they've hardened off... they may look a lot different then they do now.

Will do!

parhamr · Mar 24, 2017

Acer shirasawanum?

AlainK · Mar 24, 2017

I wrote:

AlainK said:
the lobes are not deeply cut, a bit like A. Japonicum or A. shirasawanum.

Which doesn't mean I think it is

because:

ajm55555 said:
The trunk seems like the regular Palmatum

The trunk of a shirasawanum is more in shades of brown, and the new shoots more angular.

Also, on my "regular" palmatums, the colours of the new leaves are much darker. But the soil conditions, etc, can influence that:

And here's what two seedlings of A. shirasawanum can look like:

Cattwooduk · Mar 27, 2017

Looks a lot like the Little Princess I have apart from your has more lobes.

Could be Kiyohime? Pic I pulled from the web not mine.

kite-eating bonsai tree · Mar 27, 2017

andrew, the color change throughout the growing season may also clue you in on the cultivar (green to orange in fall as opposed to green to red in fall, etc). i think it was the old greer garden catalogs that pointed this out well. i wish they hadn't taken down their nursery web site. the maples pics were great to browse through.

additionally, i expect that you'd have to allow for some variance for the yearly fall weather influence.

petegreg · Mar 27, 2017

If you have time, look at this.
http://www.maillot-erable.com/pdf/catalogues/catalogue-japanese-maples-en.pdf

The catalogue is "interactive". When you click cultivar name it'll take you to the shop and provide you with more pics and info.

ajm55555 · Mar 28, 2017

Cattwooduk said:
Could be Kiyohime? Pic I pulled from the web not mine.

I don't think so @Cattwooduk. Mine is brighter, golden pale green and before they open are more "palmatum" than clearly divided. The trunk goes from dark red to green, not coral like that in the picture. Thanks for the tip ;-)

ajm55555 · Mar 28, 2017

petegreg said:
If you have time, look at this.
http://www.maillot-erable.com/pdf/catalogues/catalogue-japanese-maples-en.pdf

The catalogue is "interactive". When you click cultivar name it'll take you to the shop and provide you with more pics and info.

Great resource. Thanks Peter!

Cadillactaste · Mar 28, 2017

petegreg said:
If you have time, look at this.
http://www.maillot-erable.com/pdf/catalogues/catalogue-japanese-maples-en.pdf

The catalogue is "interactive". When you click cultivar name it'll take you to the shop and provide you with more pics and info.

Goodness! That's crazy how many cultivars there are of JM. My own shipping I'm good with just knowing its a JM. I'm not even going to attempt to guess at which it is, not with the large group it could come from.

ajm55555 · Mar 30, 2017

They're folding out. I think it might be a regular A. Palmatum... The light yellowish/golden color could be because of the soil but the lobes are clearly divided now.

AlainK · Mar 30, 2017

ajm55555 said:
They're folding out. I think it might be a regular A. Palmatum... The light yellowish/golden color could be because of the soil but the lobes are clearly divided now.

Yes, it looks like regular Acer palmatum now.

Still looking good, and healthy, and much easier to shape than A. shirasawanum

Dav4 · Mar 30, 2017

Dav4 said:
...or it could be just the regular old species, A. palmatum,...

I win!

...sorry, couldn't resist

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ajm55555 · Mar 30, 2017

Dav4 said:
I win!

I should have imagined that, being you an Imperial Masterpiece! ;-)

Cadillactaste · Mar 30, 2017

ajm55555 said:
I should have imagined that, being you an Imperial Masterpiece! ;-)

Lol sides hurt from laughing...

When ones comment on such...it always amuses me. I never pay attention to that title added to members, or even pay attention to see who is what. But...many comment on it.

AlainK · Mar 30, 2017

Dav4 said:
I win!

Oh, you Am...

... OK, you win

Sorry, couldn't resist

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