shrub ID.
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Got down to that layer of sticky note this AM;
looked back and answered. Don't know why I
did not recognize it. The foliage is typical for most
of the genus. Brain burps I guess. Looked back
thru the post just now and yes @am1014 you were
completely correct. Like I said. Brain burps. But
actually odd that I should have any clue whatsoever.
They don't grow here. Only ever saw them while we
were traveling and in pics. We have our own semi-
woody scrub berry group; wild blackberry jam will
make you commit a felony, and make you smile while
the cell door slams.
looked back and answered. Don't know why I
did not recognize it. The foliage is typical for most
of the genus. Brain burps I guess. Looked back
thru the post just now and yes @am1014 you were
completely correct. Like I said. Brain burps. But
actually odd that I should have any clue whatsoever.
They don't grow here. Only ever saw them while we
were traveling and in pics. We have our own semi-
woody scrub berry group; wild blackberry jam will
make you commit a felony, and make you smile while
the cell door slams.
Paulpash
Masterpiece
Gooseberry 
Hairy leaves
Hairy leaves 
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Still Growing.
Sorce
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
This thing got below freezing before getting covered in snow.
Hit below 0 with the snow. -20 wind chill.
54 this morning.
All thawed out.
Interesting thing is....I lost all the bigger leaves...mostly from this, the youngest, but fattest shoot.
(Plan to cut those buds off that are really close to the trunk. And let that sacrifice run.)
The older shoots, from the smaller buds, and their new leaves are still perfect, and I swear may have been growing.
You can see how in 2 months, that sacrifice got 3 Times as thick as those old small branches?
This was mowed in a lawn.
Wish I knew when!
When I look up photos and such of all the ID's, none match real good.
So I'm still looking for that sure thing.
Whatever it is....
It's a little badass!
Thinking bout a rock next year...
Cuz I found the root that fed that shoot.
If the gangles untangle.
Sorce
Hit below 0 with the snow. -20 wind chill.
54 this morning.
All thawed out.
Interesting thing is....I lost all the bigger leaves...mostly from this, the youngest, but fattest shoot.
(Plan to cut those buds off that are really close to the trunk. And let that sacrifice run.)
The older shoots, from the smaller buds, and their new leaves are still perfect, and I swear may have been growing.
You can see how in 2 months, that sacrifice got 3 Times as thick as those old small branches?
This was mowed in a lawn.
Wish I knew when!
When I look up photos and such of all the ID's, none match real good.
So I'm still looking for that sure thing.
Whatever it is....
It's a little badass!
Thinking bout a rock next year...
Cuz I found the root that fed that shoot.
If the gangles untangle.
Sorce
maybe it is a SHRUB VERBANA/LANTANA or not
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Tell me what you think about this possible "relative"... look at the leaf shape in the last picture.
http://www.saskwildflower.ca/nat_Xanthium strumarium.html
http://www.saskwildflower.ca/nat_Xanthium strumarium.html
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http://cumbriabotany.co.uk/index.php/look-out-for/cumbrian-ribes-currants/
IMHO, there is little doubt that it is a currant of some sort... too bad that they get long and leggy (around here anyway)
IMHO, there is little doubt that it is a currant of some sort... too bad that they get long and leggy (around here anyway)
sorce
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That is a good look at the alpine currant.
That has been the closest and very well may be it.
Thanks!
Sorce
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flowers and fruit are the traits that will ''nail down'' your ID. I think it is a gooseberry, not likely to be an alpine current, habitat is all wrong. It may actually be a cocklebur, one of the introduced european weed species. But when you prune, if it is ''true wood'' with growth rings, cambium and bark, then it is a gooseberry, if it is pithy, with fibers in bundles and no defined growth rings, then it is some perennial weed species like cocklebur. Flowers and or fruit will nail the identity. Goose berry will take several years to flowering for the first time. Weed species will flower sooner.
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There are over 20 native to North America species of Ribes - the gooseberry and currant genus. And a number of European and Asian species that have been introduced to USA. Most are winter hardy through extreme cold, there is a gooseberry that is common in Illinois, Chicago area forest preserves, I remember seeing them, and eating berries as a kid. Never saw any wild currants in Chicago or Cook county forest preserves. That doesn't mean they are not there, but I did spend a lot of time in the woods as a kid.
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The reason this thread piqued my interest was that in the late fall here (Halloween actually), I ran across a small plant that was attractive enough to be an accent plant.
I brought one home (from a lake shore) and thought that it was some sort of burr. I can't seem to find it in any of the online literature, but now suspect that it may not look anything at all like the adult plant once it has grown... the leaves where a similar shape to the one that Sorce has, so it reminded me to look and possibly pass the info on to someone who shows their trees... I thought it was highly unusual in it's health, vigor, and appearance that someone might be interested in seeing it.
However, the fact that I couldn't get it to survive what should have been an easy transplant makes me doubt its suitability... which is really odd too, because "weeds" simply by definition should have grown no matter what I did to it.
I brought one home (from a lake shore) and thought that it was some sort of burr. I can't seem to find it in any of the online literature, but now suspect that it may not look anything at all like the adult plant once it has grown... the leaves where a similar shape to the one that Sorce has, so it reminded me to look and possibly pass the info on to someone who shows their trees... I thought it was highly unusual in it's health, vigor, and appearance that someone might be interested in seeing it.
However, the fact that I couldn't get it to survive what should have been an easy transplant makes me doubt its suitability... which is really odd too, because "weeds" simply by definition should have grown no matter what I did to it.
Potawatomi13
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First guess was currant family. Second guess Rose of Sharon. Leaves not big enough but also guessed Mulberry.
. Leaves not big enough but also guessed Mulberry.
sorce
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Thanks guys.
I am familiar with ROS and Mulberry as They are everywhere in my yard!
A random currant is going to work!
Lessin them fruits get to growing!
Sorce
I am familiar with ROS and Mulberry as They are everywhere in my yard!
A random currant is going to work!
Lessin them fruits get to growing!
Sorce
M. Frary
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sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Still don't know what to call it.. . .
But with the way heaving soil exposed roots, and these leaves made it thru winter open and seem to be still alive....
I have to call this thing badass!
It's looking forward to a rock!
Sorce
sorce
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I turned my back on this for a second!
The leaves doubled in size and it's growing mad!
Some of those winter leaves browned...
Some stayed well....
Roots are still real flexible....
If it works on a rock....good...
If not...
Layering.
Sorce
The leaves doubled in size and it's growing mad!
Some of those winter leaves browned...
Some stayed well....
Roots are still real flexible....
If it works on a rock....good...
If not...
Layering.
Sorce
just.wing.it
Deadwood Head
Hell yeah, man!
Rock it out!
Looks like a tree from a Dr Seuss book.
Rock it out!
Looks like a tree from a Dr Seuss book.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I repotted this last week...in the right moon.
Cut off the heavy stuff on the keeper side.
No go for a rock...yet....I cinched it.
Put a RadialDisk™ under the cinch.
Sorce
Cut off the heavy stuff on the keeper side.
No go for a rock...yet....I cinched it.
Put a RadialDisk™ under the cinch.
Sorce
