TP Hackberry #4

thumblessprimate1 said:

You know more than me.
I learn something new everyday.

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Sorry, I don't mean to be overbearing.
I just don't seem to be able to help myself.

0soyoung said:

Sorry, I don't mean to be overbearing.
I just don't seem to be able to help myself.

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Nope. Not overbearing to me. Don't mind at all.

Anyways, just now applied some wood preserver.

@Osoyoung

please stay as you are. Helpful
Good Day
Anthony

* Wood preserver - ? - even one of the of the older trees with a cavity at the base, grew cambium around the wood and
was going to seal and refatten, before fridge death. You might be doing too much.

Anthony said:

@Osoyoung

please stay as you are. Helpful
Good Day
Anthony

* Wood preserver - ? - even one of the of the older trees with a cavity at the base, grew cambium around the wood and
was going to seal and refatten, before fridge death. You might be doing too much.

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Thanks, Anthony. So you would simply let the leader grow? All my work is done but a parafilm wrap. I just experienced awesome covering up of a smaller wound one year on japanese quince when I wrapped it, so it's why I like to wrap.

Yes, Thumbless, the Celtis l. heals once it is actively growing.
Nothing special needs to be done [ down here, Tropics ] hopefully it is the same for you.
Good Day
Anthony

Anthony said:

Yes, Thumbless, the Celtis l. heals once it is actively growing.
Nothing special needs to be done [ down here, Tropics ] hopefully it is the same for you.
Good Day
Anthony

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Well, Anthony, I wrapped and treated the wood know this on like I planned. Just removed wire from the leader. It's active. Wire bit in.

This other, my largest Hackberry, I'll not wrap up with anything. Just removed the dieback with chainsaw a few months back and smoothed the surface with Dremel.

Unwired and rewired already. I think this one will sort of be a sumo or just phat based.

@thmblessprimate1,

Hey Thumbless,

here is how we do it.

[1] Okay, this tree is a miracle, the mother was an original sapling from Lafayete, La. Died from
drying out in the fridge. so many weeks later a root shot up a shoot.

It was planted in the growing trough [ read a growing bed/ground ] to regain the trunk size.
So it is a fast grown young tree and the heartwood is soft.

[2] What is done, up to November or so, just a month before dormancy, the tree is fertilised.
Then into the fridge around the 3rd week of January until April 1st.

To go into the fridge it is trimmed. We know the shoots this thick [ ---------- ] will die and so they are
removed as well as whatever length might stop the tree from fitting in the fridge.
Very little soil is removed, in fact the root bound state is used. So almost all of the soil goes into the
fridge. A bag is placed over the soil, the soil is wet and the back is tied a few inches above the root mass.

Tree is checked every two weeks. Most of the leaves left on the tree will turn yellow and fall off in the
fridge.

[3] Removal from the fridge, and about an inch of soil is cut off all around top, side and base.
Fresh soil is added and the tree is placed in a shaded cool spot to come out of dormancy. About a week
or two. Then into dappled light for a week, then a sunny position.

[4] We expect an explosion of growth. Called ----------- The Spring flush.

Tree is left to grow f0r a month and then fertilised for another month.

Last year the tree was in a large 2 foot oval, but only 3" deep. Growth extensions reached almost 5'.

[5] This year a smaller pot, slightly more shallow. Since the wood/wound zone is immature it might need
some treatment, time will tell, a hardener and maybe a thin acrylic coat [ off shore drilling rig steel paint - seablast durable
lasts for 40 years. ]

Anyhow around June tree will be pruned and ramification process started, may take 5 more years.
Hope this helps.

The Spring Flush is important.

Good Day
Anthony

Just into new soil - wait for shoots.




Spring flush --------- hair cut in June. 28 / 4 /2017

@Anthony
That's a nice amount of spring flush! My spring growth isn't so great on my tree right now, but it may pick up. I have others that have more explosive growth. It's nice to see Hackberry bonsai.

I enjoy trying to create good Hackberry bonsai, and it's nice to see more people have Hackberry on the forum. Keep sharing more if you have more, Anthony.

Getting second flush of growth.

Pruned some branches back. I'd like my thread graft to bond by next year. Also focusing on a good clean closed chop wound. I replaced the black tape. Not much action yet. The carved wood is still dry and solid though. I've unwired and rewired the leader at least twice already. It's thickened that many times.

Martin,

if you have the time could you do another image. The Black and White is hard to see.
Good Day
Anthony

@Anthony Sure! I though black and white could make things less distracting; things like my funny wiring
Not sure if you knew you could click on the symbol I circled in the attached picture to view more detail. If not see attached thumbnail. You could see the actual one after you click on the black and white thumbnail. Believe it or not, I only figured this out this year.

Since I'm talking about my Hackberry I can now recall that last night I sort of had a nightmare. I saw my entire portion after my trunk chop some how got ruined as though it were struck by a large hail stone.

thumblessprimate1 said:

Pruned some branches back. I'd like my thread graft to bond by next year. Also focusing on a good clean closed chop wound. I replaced the black tape. Not much action yet. The carved wood is still dry and solid though. I've unwired and rewired the leader at least twice already. It's thickened that many times.

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Why are you wiring the escape branch at the top? Wire slows things down, unless that's the point, I would just let it run.

@Giga My reasoning was to keep it growing straight and high above to grow strong and shade little of what's below and nearby. I thought that it'd be a good idea since I'll not be cutting it for a while. I'm going to place the tree in a larger pot so it could be maybe 2 years more before I chop it again. By then it might be 6 to 7 feet tall. Also, space side ways is limited, but vertically the "sky is the limit." Sort of. Ultimately, the wiring on the leader is on the loose side, so it shouldn't be much constrictive. I keep removing it and moving it further up where the leader tends to flop over.

thumblessprimate1 said:

@Giga My reasoning was to keep it growing straight and high above to grow strong and shade little of what's below and nearby. I thought that it'd be a good idea since I'll not be cutting it for a while. I'm going to place the tree in a larger pot so it could be maybe 2 years more before I chop it again. By then it might be 6 to 7 feet tall. Also, space side ways is limited, but vertically the "sky is the limit." Sort of. Ultimately, the wiring on the leader is on the loose side, so it shouldn't be much constrictive. I keep removing it and moving it further up where the leader tends to flop over.

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Maybe it's just hackberry but, most tree's I have growing out, the new leader will sag then straighten out as it hardens off. I just know through experience that wired escape branches do slow down abit

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Martin,

I would suggest boosting for more foliage. Lots more foliage.
To heal and thicken.
Thanks for taking the time to re-image, it is much appreciated.
Will keep on observing as the year goes by.
Good Day
Anthony

Anthony said:

Martin,

I would suggest boosting for more foliage. Lots more foliage.
To heal and thicken.
Thanks for taking the time to re-image, it is much appreciated.
Will keep on observing as the year goes by.
Good Day
Anthony

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Fertilizing. Expect to see more leaves. More has just started to grow after the pruning.

Placing this here. https://swindon-bonsai.co.uk/2016/03/23/celtis-sinensis/
Just came across the old post related to Hackberry. I love some of the trees there.