Prunus Spinosa

sorce · Aug 29, 2015

Leo in N E Illinois said:
Nice little starter tree. I would let it grow out quite a bit to bulk up the trunk. But it works for me as a semi-cascade. I assume this is a seedling, so it will be a decade before it begins flowering, but if its a cutting, flowers could come any spring. If you want to keep it shohin, I would still let branches extend a long way before removing them, to help bulk up the trunk.

I guess this is about 5-10 years old.
It had a rough spring, but without repotting next year, I should be able to get it going.

I'm gonna let that sacrifice go for a long time, and need to reconfigure the main branches, I hope to let some run there too.

Is like the roots to fatten up some too .

Sorce

sorce · Mar 22, 2016

Sorce

sorce · Apr 21, 2016

Very cooperative.

Sorce

petegreg · Apr 21, 2016

Sorce, after the heavy rain or gentle watering?

YukiShiro · Apr 21, 2016

does it ever flower bro?

best regards
Herman

sorce · Apr 21, 2016

petegreg said:
Sorce, after the heavy rain or gentle watering?

Heavy Rain!
Good cuz I needed to skip a day!

YukiShiro said:
does it ever flower bro?

I watch these quite a bit....in the woods...
Best I can tell....without knowledge of "pruning stuff away", I reckon this could flower any year. Within 5-10 for sure.

According to everything rounded in my favor! And unscientific lies to myself too!

Short answer...no!

But it will be beautiful when it does!

Sorce

YukiShiro · Apr 22, 2016

if it does flower...

WOW!!!!

sorce · Apr 24, 2016

YukiShiro said:
does it ever flower bro

Hell Yeah Herman!

Check it out!

Mega freaking excited!

Sorce

petegreg · Apr 24, 2016

Enjoy gentle white flowers!

sorce · Apr 24, 2016

petegreg said:
Enjoy gentle white flowers!

Thanks for bringing me back to look at it again!

sorce said:
Mega freaking excited!

Sorce

Leo in N E Illinois · Apr 24, 2016

I'd like to see a picture when flowers are open. I don't remember noticing flowers, and I have one in the yard that produces fruit every year.

sorce · Apr 24, 2016

Leo in N E Illinois said:
I'd like to see a picture when flowers are open. I don't remember noticing flowers, and I have one in the yard that produces fruit every year.

I hope I'm around to catch them!

My glossy last year did this and then they were gone. But that was summer.

I want to roughstimate like 3-5 days for these....if I remember correctly from woods romping.

I'm hoping to see about double or triple the buds before they open......
This seems kind of thin so far..
But understandably so I guess.

Was in Waukegan for a tourney this weekend! It's bloody cold up there!

No leaves yet! Damn!

Sorce

Leo in N E Illinois · Apr 24, 2016

sorce said:
I hope I'm around to catch them!

My glossy last year did this and then they were gone. But that was summer.

I want to roughstimate like 3-5 days for these....if I remember correctly from woods romping.

I'm hoping to see about double or triple the buds before they open......
This seems kind of thin so far..
But understandably so I guess.

Was in Waukegan for a tourney this weekend! It's bloody cold up there!

No leaves yet! Damn!

Sorce

You were in Waukegan and didn't call? Its okay, I ended up in Michigan over the weekend, but if I had known a couple days before hand, might have been able to re-arrange schedule. Next time, if you are anywhere north of downtown Chi-town, let me know, we could meet up. Zion is the next town north of Waukegan, you were less than 10 miles away. But your day was probably booked solid, so you're off the hook.

YukiShiro · Apr 25, 2016

Nice!!!
super excited too!

best regards
Herman

sorce · May 10, 2016

Leo in N E Illinois said:
flowers

New stage....should have some nice blooms soon....

It would be nice if it was a preleaf flower.

Hopefully I finally get some THORNS!

Sorce

sorce · Oct 30, 2016

Got thorns.

I thought this had an update.

Anyway.

This one is looking forward to a repot in spring.

Had a tough year but it put on more than I realized.

Next year that sacrifice branch should be big enough to really boost thickening.

Sorce

MichaelS · May 2, 2017

I agree sorce. P spinosa is a wonderful wild looking thing. They grow wild about 100 miles north of me in dense thickets but all straight trunked. ( I think they were introduced by the early settlers to make some kind of alcoholic drink from the fruit or something) I got a friend to dig up some smaller roots and now I've been propagating them. Mine are about the same size as yours.
If I can just offer this, In my experience they aren't too crazy about a course soil. They seen to do better in a heavier soil with some loam in it. (same as quince)

sorce · May 2, 2017

Repotted 4/13.

Wired..in.

Lotta flower buds.

Sac tip.

NBSF.

Sorce

ianb · May 2, 2017

MichaelS said:
I agree sorce. P spinosa is a wonderful wild looking thing. They grow wild about 100 miles north of me in dense thickets but all straight trunked. ( I think they were introduced by the early settlers to make some kind of alcoholic drink from the fruit or something) I got a friend to dig up some smaller roots and now I've been propagating them. Mine are about the same size as yours.
If I can just offer this, In my experience they aren't too crazy about a course soil. They seen to do better in a heavier soil with some loam in it. (same as quince)

Yeah, it's Sloe Gin. Common name for Prunus Spinosa (one of them) is Sloe, the fruit and sugar is added to gin and sits for a few months being turned every so often. It's the only way to drink gin...

CasAH · May 2, 2017

MichaelS said:
I agree sorce. P spinosa is a wonderful wild looking thing. They grow wild about 100 miles north of me in dense thickets but all straight trunked. ( I think they were introduced by the early settlers to make some kind of alcoholic drink from the fruit or something) I got a friend to dig up some smaller roots and now I've been propagating them. Mine are about the same size as yours.
If I can just offer this, In my experience they aren't too crazy about a course soil. They seen to do better in a heavier soil with some loam in it. (same as quince)

This is actually Rhamnus cathartica, glossy buckthorn. It has inconspicuous green flowers.

It is considered an invasive species in Illinois and it is against the law to sell in Illinois.

This is a plant that you do not want to eat or mix with gin. The plant was brought over from Europe as it was used as a laxative.

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