Wife gets a swimming pool, I get the wisteria
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rockm
Spuds Moyogi
I concur with everything Zach and Mcpesq have said about rot. That has been my experience too with larger collected wisteria. You could lose SUBSTANTIAL portions of the trunk over time--cleaning out the already-punky wood doesn't really do much to prevent that. Die back from the base, on up the trunk can continue for years until the plant stabilizes itself. I've seen it time and again on larger (over 6" to 24" diameter) collected vines.
The good news is that if left to grow strongly for a few years, you can shorten that time and begin the process of pushing new wood over the rot and dieback. However, that means sacrificing flowering for growth. Hard pruning right out of the box to encourage flowers will like encourage more dieback...
markyscott
Imperial Masterpiece
Scott, this will make you jealous. I found the photo of us collecting the wisteria. You have to trade a swimming pool for a wisteria; Hmm... I put my wife to work digging the wisteria!
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I am jealous. I should've aske my wife to dig it for me too if she wanted a pool. Once again, I'm the student and you're the teacher. I have a lot to learn!
Scott
Yeah, tell her the wisteria needs a rootball about 40x20x12 feet. Pool's dug!
She helped digging one tree but I had to mow the yard for the rest of the year.
markyscott
Imperial Masterpiece
She helped digging one tree but I had to mow the yard for the rest of the year.
Is she available to dig my pool? How long would you have to mow the lawn for that?
S
markyscott
Imperial Masterpiece
Well. The swimming pool is done and the wisteria lives. Should be fun once I get my head around what 20' of growth a season means for bonsai.
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
lovely pool!
Scott, that smaller section of the pool in the foreground...if you were to drain it and fill it with Shiners and ice, how long could we sit there watching the bikini pool service dip the leaves while we try to determining which grows faster, the trident maple or the wisteria?
LanceMac10
Imperial Masterpiece
That's so, so, so sweet...this sweet.....
markyscott
Imperial Masterpiece
Not enough information. How fast can you drink a Shiner?
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
And what is the wisteria grafted with? Foemina?
barrosinc
Masterpiece
It looks shimpaku-ume hybrid to me
Depends on the bikini girl...
LanceMac10
Imperial Masterpiece
Bikini service?
You missed @Bonsai Nut OP about "bonsai addict"....we can't handle "bikini service" anymore, or at least not for long!!!
You missed @Bonsai Nut OP about "bonsai addict"....we can't handle "bikini service" anymore, or at least not for long!!!
pweifan
Shohin
Hey Scott, did you have any dieback at the base of the trunk? I've heard that large Wisteria can do that. I'm also wondering if the fact that you didn't chop back very low had an impact. In any case it looks nice and healthy
markyscott
Imperial Masterpiece
Hey Scott, did you have any dieback at the base of the trunk? I've heard that large Wisteria can do that. I'm also wondering if the fact that you didn't chop back very low had an impact. In any case it looks nice and healthy
I did find a bit of rot at the base of the trunk, but I think it was a pre-existing condition. So far I've not identified any dieback.
Scott
markyscott
Imperial Masterpiece
End of 2017 growing season. It was crazy.
Scott
Scott
Ha ha ha ha ha okay so I may be the WORST woman to be asked a question like that but I couldn't help but laugh. If I had a pool in my backyard I would be using it in less conventional ways... like teaching people how to Eskimo roll there kayak, or practicing flat water tricks. Besides a few might know that I already turned down the need for a diamond ring
and I am more the beer drinker on average...Attachments
Guy Vitale
Shohin
Nice development Scott, what is your ultimate plan for the braided upper trunk? I would say don't try and shoehorn this tree into an idealistic bonsai, but rather train it instead for the best display for when it's flowering. For 11 months out of the year wisteria are rather unsightly, but man the flowering makes it worth it. First picture is 2016, second was this summer after air layering the two lowest branches. I felt it needed a good redesign and I get a couple extra to boot.
switch the photos, they uploaded backwards.
switch the photos, they uploaded backwards.
