My newest shimpaku juniper

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...playing games with us. That's a different tree definitely, the collander, straw that he doesn't use any more...They would never do repotting and such a heavy prunning...I expect some wonderful pictures coming!
 

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OK.
I am screwing around.
That is a different one.
The one that got ate but was left with just that small amount of foliage. It's still alive by the way.
I haven't touched the other one yet. I'm waiting for the chance of frost is gone so that I can take cuttings.
Probably next weekend.
 

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... The one that got ate...
...take cuttings.
Good to see it alive after a season.

It would deserve grafting after inspection of live veins. Nice bones. Or are you gonna take cuttings for approach grafts?
 

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OK.
I am screwing around.
That is a different one.
The one that got ate but was left with just that small amount of foliage. It's still alive by the way.
I haven't touched the other one yet. I'm waiting for the chance of frost is gone so that I can take cuttings.
Probably next weekend.
Asshole ;)
 

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The nursery I can get them at finally got some in but they are tiny and pricey! Size of just over a 1 gallon tree in a 3 gallon can with matching price of $37.99. But I plan to grow it out and take cuttings for sure.
 

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First things first.
I put it into the colander yesterday.
I know Adair will tell me it doesnt need one.
They are my way of cheating a little on cutting back roots. No cutting instruments were deployed.
It will prune them back gradually so I don't have to shock it by making drastic cuts to them all at once.
Make sense?
I actually washed out maybe 2/3rds of the soil out. Leaving some at the center. Maybe more maybe less. It's actually sitting on some I hooked out before I took the hose to it.
Yes. A hose.
Never fear. It will be fine. 20170520_142813.jpg 20170520_142830.jpg
It had just recently been up potted recently so it wasn't rootbound at all.
I didn't get any pictures of that process because I couldn't find my phone. It was buried under the pile of soil.
Now it gets to recuperate for a few months and then Vance and I will have a go at it.
I may root some cuttings of branches I know I won't need until then but I don't want to get crazy with it.
 

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First things first.
I put it into the colander yesterday.
I know Adair will tell me it doesnt need one.
They are my way of cheating a little on cutting back roots. No cutting instruments were deployed.
It will prune them back gradually so I don't have to shock it by making drastic cuts to them all at once.
Make sense?
I actually washed out maybe 2/3rds of the soil out. Leaving some at the center. Maybe more maybe less. It's actually sitting on some I hooked out before I took the hose to it.
Yes. A hose.
Never fear. It will be fine. View attachment 146600 View attachment 146601
It had just recently been up potted recently so it wasn't rootbound at all.
I didn't get any pictures of that process because I couldn't find my phone. It was buried under the pile of soil.
Now it gets to recuperate for a few months and then Vance and I will have a go at it.
I may root some cuttings of branches I know I won't need until then but I don't want to get crazy with it.
You're right, it doesn't need a colander! Lol!!! You will have to make sure to keep it well watered! With that much foliage, it will need a lot of water.

Washing the roots off is ok... we do this when doing a "half bare root" repot. The difference is we try to get way into the core of the rootball to get the old nursery soil out from under trunk. It's that old nursery soil that has old compacted organic soil that we're trying to get rid of.

The other problem I read is you didn't cut any roots. (As I understand it.) You don't want downward growing roots. You want to promote radial roots. Left on their own, roots grow down. One of the things that important to do is cut the downward roots, and let the radial roots grow.

If you cut the Juniper roots back, they backbud and form a fibrous root system. Which is what we want. Leaving the roots long discourages this. Will the colander work instead? I don't know.

The idea behind colanders is as the roots grow and approach the edge of the colander, the soil is dryer and is less inviting than the soil closer to the center where there is more moisture. Also, roots extending thru the holes will encounter air, which stops them from growing.

You have kept your long roots, and I presume they're probably placed in contact with the edge of the colander. The colander may suppress them from growing. Normally, we want the tree to grow new roots right after repotting.

So, those are the things I see that might pose a problem with the way you repotted. It may work out just fine, I hope it does.
 

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I read is you didn't cut any roots
I didn't really have to.
It had just been put in a 3 gallon pot from a 1 gallon pot. So they weren't long. Just out to the edge. I think the year before last.
It didn't have large ones just the nice red hairy ones.
The soil is pretty loose still even towards the middle.
It was in mostly bark so the rest won't be too tough next time.
I didn't touch the foliage yet to give it time to recover but there will be some coming off this year.
Some today actually.
Just the stuff I know I won't need for sure and not too large.
I did the same to this one when I got it fton Meehans. It had been in the bulb pan so long it was nothing but roots. A solid mass in the shape of the pot.
It has done very well all things considered.
Voles and all. If it had any root problems it would have died from the amount of foliage they ate. 2015-01-18 11.42.52.jpg 20160904_191546_001.jpg
Not too many junipers can sustain the loss of almost all of the foliage and live.
This one did.
I give all of the credit to the colander.

I just realized something.
That thing needs to go in the ugly tree thread.
 

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Yes.
The one this threads about.
I still have the ate up one.
 
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