I believe it's not quite a manzanita, but a kinnikinnick - closely related, perhaps. But yeah, I put the wrong photo in there - that one wasn't a looser, and I'd give it to you but I gave that away when I liquidated my collection a year ago in preps for moving overseas. The Spruce was some variety from the B.C. coastline with needles so sharp my hands would get all cut up working on it even wearing thick gloves. Got it for free from Dan Robinson after he collected it and deemed it too painful to work with as well. Some of the other ones went into the ground to fatten up into someting, but never did in the time I had. The willow did what willows do - a war of attrition. The bloodgood next to it just didn't seem worth the effort after a while, given their rep for the leaves never reducing - I don't recall what I did with it, but probably just threw it in the dead pile after years of frustration.