Well, that's how it's done in my small town...

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A few months back a drug dealer shot dead when his girlfriends father had enough of her being into drugs...he was found at scene with smoking gun basically. (In the next town over from ours.)

Seen this week trial was being heard...verdict in. Guess we will set an example to those who wish to sell drugs in our community eh? (I believe the trial was in our town courthouse.)


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Sure. Because vigilantism doesn't imperil us all
What do you expect when the police have been scared into submission? They're a joke. A least they are in my whole life experience.
Sometimes it's the only way.
Sometimes the right thing might not be the best thing, and vice versa.
 

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I think...The community is sick of the disease killing many. The dealers...get a slap on the wrist. As we continue to bury their customers. They had good documentation of bad drugs that took the lives of many. And they never even tried them for the deaths of the lives they helped take by placing it in their hands. I think...by large. The community is speaking loudly on this account. I'm curious if it will be appealed by the ones family. I don't see this being an end...but only a beginning. But...it sets a tone...that, in our community drug dealers lives do not matter.
 

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So when the "drug dealer" has a family member so overcome with grief that he shoots the father, would that be ok?
I do get what your saying...I don't think this is over by a long shot. I am curious where this goes from here. But...I think the juries voice was heard in their discuss of drugs in the community and those who place it in the hands of others. I was shocked that he was found not guilty. He still killed a man. Found at the scene...hard to say he didn't. So...is there another term they used? In his actions? I will be interested to reading the full story...if anything he may still be charged?
 

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The young man was living outside the law, in that case, in that life, you usually/always get what's coming to you.

In this case, the prosecutor should have aimed for a manslaughter charge. Minimal jail-time and most likely to pay a restitution amount in a civil suit.

Drugs are a powerful attraction, and deadly. If the father thinks his daughter's problems died with the drug dealer, I worry he'll be mistaken. Should he then have the right to kill her NEXT dealer?
 

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The young man was living outside the law, in that case, in that life, you usually/always get what's coming to you.

In this case, the prosecutor should have aimed for a manslaughter charge. Minimal jail-time and most likely to pay a restitution amount in a civil suit.

Drugs are a powerful attraction, and deadly. If the father thinks his daughter's problems died with the drug dealer, I worry he'll be mistaken. Should he then have the right to kill her NEXT dealer?
Well said sir!
When you consider that we have boots on the ground in the middle east, guarding the poppy fields.....it will never end.
There's too much money there.
Sorry to say.
 

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The young man was living outside the law, in that case, in that life, you usually/always get what's coming to you.

In this case, the prosecutor should have aimed for a manslaughter charge. Minimal jail-time and most likely to pay a restitution amount in a civil suit.

Drugs are a powerful attraction, and deadly. If the father thinks his daughter's problems died with the drug dealer, I worry he'll be mistaken. Should he then have the right to kill her NEXT dealer?
I hear you...I'm curious...I can't see him walking away Scott free. He killed a man. You know how papers are. Won't tell the whole story on newsfeed. Will make ones buy their paper on the stands once printed.
 

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I do get what your saying...I don't think this is over by a long shot. I am curious where this goes from here. But...I think the juries voice was heard in their discuss of drugs in the community and those who place it in the hands of others. I was shocked that he was found not guilty. He still killed a man. Found at the scene...hard to say he didn't. So...is there another term they used? In his actions? I will be interested to reading the full story...if anything he may still be charged?
Supreme Court I'm betting.
 

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The boyfriend checked her out of a drug rehabilitation center. Things went down hill fast...there was more to it than meets the eye for sure. I doubt we will ever know everything.
 

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This island has a higher percentage of meth use than any other STATE! Car theft is epidemic and the judges just slap their wrists. Cars disappear from parking lots and driveways every day. Paradise? Not. Sorry folks, just venting.
 

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Bond 1 million? Is that bail?
Is he guilty or innocent? Why pay a million if you are getting released?

Sorry for the stupid questions
 

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Bond 1 million? Is that bail?
Is he guilty or innocent? Why pay a million if you are getting released?

Sorry for the stupid questions
This was the article right after it happened that made the news...the article for his being found not guilty has not been released officially yet in a news article. Only a tidbit on newsfeed.
 

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Bond 1 million? Is that bail?
Is he guilty or innocent? Why pay a million if you are getting released?

Sorry for the stupid questions


The article is from 2016 when the shooting took place. The Court set bail at $1.0 million. This is just after he was arrested. He and his family had to pledge $1.0 million in assets, such as their house or stocks and bonds worth $1.0 million. The other option is to give the Court 10% of the bond in cash, in this case it would be $100,000 cash. This would allow him to get out of jail prior to the trial, which just took place this week. It allowed him from sitting in jail for 7 months before being convicted.

If he skipped town and did not show up for his trial, a warrant for his arrest would be issued by the judge. He would have lost the $1.0 million in assets posted, i.e. Their home and stocks or bonds. If he posted $100,000 cash. He would lose that plus what ever else he used to to cover the $900,000 not paid in cash.
 

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. But...it sets a tone...that, in our community drug dealers lives do not matter
Someone kills one of my children,whether he's a drug dealer or not will pay dearly.
The drug dealer didn't turn his daughter into a drug addict.
He didn't force her to do drugs.
It was her own self.
 

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Someone kills one of my children,whether he's a drug dealer or not will pay dearly.
The drug dealer didn't turn his daughter into a drug addict.
He didn't force her to do drugs.
It was her own self.
It's messed up...I can see his passion in the event. But as you say...Free Will played into his daughters part...I can see where the family of the victim was discarded their loss of a life taken...both his daughter and the guy he shot are both dead...his daughter OD earlier this year...without the boyfriend in her life. Her obituary left her parents actual names out. Most likely because of the upcoming trial...not wishing to have ones connect the dots. Since...the trial was of breaking and entering it sounds...and no mention of the correlation of past history came to light. One may ask...what was the prosecuting attorney thinking!?! It's sad...on all accounts. A child lost both parents to the heroin...in round about way. Though...is there a gray area where he thought there was an intruder? The guy mowed the grass of the house he was killed. So the neighbors knew he was living there...messed up...gray areas allowed to grow darker gray instead of all history given...did the history play into it? One could guess it did...where others could draw a very fine line it didn't I reckon.
 
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