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Ok Choopy,

let us look at the Fukien Tea, zone 9 and China has no Tropical zone.
The beach reaches zone 10.

In 1993 and 1996, on a purchasing trip to the UK, we brought in Fukien teas and Sageretia's.
The mother plants of the Sageretias, died after 3 years [ no real roots ] but the cuttings thrived and
the plants acclimated [ Sageretia is a zone 7 ]

What we noted was the cuttings and seedling of the Fukien teas, went dormant from Christmas until Mid
February. Probably dormancy induced by short days - lack of light.
So we just water when needed.

Most of Trinidad's trees stop growing during our dry season - December to May / June.
Flowering takes over.
Our trees also stop growing when the rains hit 9" of rain per month. This happens twice during June to
November.

If we dig up from the yard, a Sageretia from any time after October until March, it will die.

So you are researching the life cycle of the BRT.
Hope that helps.
Good Day
Anthony

* Incidentally, the plants from China, via Holland to the UK, were in clay [ perhaps clay loam ]
and we were told that all the Chinese do is dig the shape of the pot and then ship.

The clay was rich enough to roll and make shapes, by the way.


None of this helps anything hahahaha classic Anthony.

What does this have to do with a brazilian raintree in florida?
And what does any of this have to do with the lifespan of a BRT in bonsai culture?
How long do you believe a BRT will thrive in a bonsai pot in florida?

Please only answer my specific questions and please only reference botanical information about the raintree. Thanks.

Good Day
 

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@choppychoppy ,

Choppy,

can you not tell when you are being politely told to do your own research ?
Good Day
Anthony

This is supposed to be a forum to promote discussion not tell people to go away. Im trying to get info. I've got lots of rain trees and some over 40yrs in bonsai culture.

WOW - what an arrogant, pompous elitist asshole. These are the guys that turn people off of hobbies.
 

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So I took a few minutes this morning to look after my Brazilian I have in a pot. I had let it grow for quite a bit, and it became shaggy. So, against better advice and judgment, I defoliated and wired.


This pic is from this morning before I started working on it.
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Here I defoliated most of the leaves. I left a few on, but it gave me a much better view of the branch structure and I was able to remove some thorns. I still got stabbed in the thumb though.
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Here is after I wired the branches up. Some of the branches ar long, and while I don't have the best ramification, this tree is really for me to just learn on, it'll never be worthy of showing. Some of the branches that are sticking up are very new, and I won't be able to wire them for another week or two. The leaves will probably start pushing back in by then.
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Bonus front view after wiring. The two live branches sticking up are too new to effectively wire. I really like the twisted dead branch I have in there as well.

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I moved mine outside so they look rough right now. Should I wait till it's pushing new growth before the repot or wait till the new stuff really fills in? I will have to bring it back in come October
 

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I moved mine outside so they look rough right now. Should I wait till it's pushing new growth before the repot or wait till the new stuff really fills in? I will have to bring it back in come October
They look rough since you put them out? I know you're north of me. But mine have only been outside a couple of weeks, and they look so much better. Even in a southern window and lights, in the winter they just kind of hang in there .
 

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I think I gave them to much sun to fast. I just had mine in a good size west window for the winter. They do seem to be starting to push new growth. I don't have much shade to work with
 

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I think I gave them to much sun to fast. I just had mine in a good size west window for the winter. They do seem to be starting to push new growth. I don't have much shade to work with
I only have a year experience with them, but since our climates are very similar, I'd bet they'll be perking up very soon.
 

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I'm at 6 months but I really enjoy them! The only other one I moved out was a ficus and it didn't skip a beat
 

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@Lobaeux, Absolutely not questioning your experience, or reasoning but why do you defoliate? Do you feel it helps in some way? I guess I think rain trees should look sort of lush, and will grow that way without defoliating . I'm probably wrong?
 

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@carol83 I'm guessing there's no botanical need to defoliate the tree. Even though I've read some papers saying it's okay, those have been for agricultural uses of legume trees, NOT for Bonsai.

The reason I defoliate is because I can. That's really the only reason, that and it made it much easier to wire and dethorn. I wouldn't presume to suggest to others to defoliate the Brazilian as I would a Premna.

I'll take another pic of the tree a week after defoliation and see what's up with it. I went out this morning to water, and the leaves I left on were open and perky. I did leave it in the shade yesterday and will probably leave it out of direct sunlight for another day or so.
 

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Two weeks later since my defoliation.

Nice and fast - here we would have to defoliate early Spring to get that kind of bounce back before Summer sets in. At present I am working with one of the owner's at Crystal's Office on an indoor setup for one in the entrance/foyer area. Might look into a couple for home at the same time I order theirs being I thinned out the tropical room a bit and am adding shelves and lights in a few weeks.

Good work and Good Growing!

Grimmy
 
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