How many of you are proactive and consistent with antifungal spraying?

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I don't spray preventive. Maybe i must do that sometime...

I was thinking about this yesterday, while looking up into canopies to find aphids...

It's either preventative spray....

Or preventative observation.

I prefer observation.

So do my jumping spiders, mantii, lady bug larvae, bees, lacewings, etc.

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I was thinking about this yesterday, while looking up into canopies to find aphids...

It's either preventative spray....

Or preventative observation.

I prefer observation.

So do my jumping spiders, mantii, lady bug larvae, bees, lacewings, etc.

Sorce

How are the trees after all the rain?

I definitely apply preventative for fungi.

I observe everyday for pest. Damn pest are going to be looking this year.
 

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How are the trees after all the rain?

I definitely apply preventative for fungi.

I observe everyday for pest. Damn pest are going to be looking this year.

It been so windy....things are Ok.

I'm trying to come up with a trunk branch leaf....
Patterned pests finding resorce.

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I am very aggressive now... but only because I have a lot of citrus and the citrus taught me a lesson.

I have 15 citrus trees on my property that I baby. They each have a dedicated drip irrigator, get regular citrus fertilizer, and were planted in good soil. I started to have problems with my citrus - as well as a couple of peaches I had in the front yard. I couldn't figure out what was going on and thought it might be water related (since we have such bad water). I spoke to garden centers who put me on the path of adding magnesium to the soil (which helped address the salt buildup due to our bad water) but some of the trees generally looked weak, and every couple of years I would lose one. Finally after a total loss of about three or four trees, I found an online site that had a few professional citrus growers. When I described my problems, the first thing they asked about was my insecticide and fungicide routine. When I said I didn't have one they shared theirs.

Now I realize that (at least in Southern California) it is critical to spray during the rainy season when the trees are dormant. At the minimum, you can use organic insecticides like neem oil or pyrethrins, and organic fungicide like sulfur. However they recommended a pretty complicated schedule of rotation through different products - with emphasis on spraying any time after a heavy rain as soon as the foliage dried. The first year after I started doing this my citrus exploded with growth. The leaves are now huge, and thick dark green almost like a magnolia. I can't believe it took me a decade to figure this out.

It took me a few more years to come to the brain storm that if my citrus were suffering - perhaps my bonsai were as well and I just didn't realize it. So now when I spray my citrus I spray my bonsai. I also supplement with magnesium.

For fungicide my current mix is Heritage, Clearys 3336 and Mancozeb. The Clearys is a systemic and I only use it on my bonsai - I don't use any systemic anything on my citrus. Because it is preventative it is hard to say that it is "working" because I don't wait until I see fungus before I treat. I personally believe some pathogens are almost impossible to visually identify and they are only seen via the negative impact they have on your trees. You only notice when they are gone.

[EDIT] Let me quickly add - instead of the Clearys on my citrus I use sulfur [/EDIT]
What kind of citrus do you grow? I'd enjoy some pictures of them, if you don't mind :D

You think I need to start a similar routine to yours? Here are my two larger ones I got this winter; a Persian lime and an orange. I have others as well but not nearly as large- these are about 5 or 6 feet tall not including the pots. I just repotted them today, they were sooo root bound at the nursery in like 2-3 gallon pots. So that probably explains the yellowness Of the line leaves; your opinion?

They've grown vigorously for me so far, throwing fruit and flowers. They looked really sparse at the nursery but I got them for a steal IMO.
 

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Looking at this list, I gave you the wrong quantity of citrus trees. I have 15 fruit trees, but only 13 are citrus. My fruit trees:

Red Baron Peach
Mid-Pride Peach

Eureka Lemon
Meyer's Lemon (x2) (my wife loves these)

Valencia Orange
Washington Orange
Midnight Valencia Orange
Moro Blood Orange

Satsuma Mandarin
Honey Mandarin
Dancy Tangerine

Mexican Lime
Bears Lime

OroGold Grapefruit

Hard to take pictures of them because I can't get back far enough. All of the photos I have look like a mass of greenery :) This first photo is (from left) Valencia Orange, OroGold Grapefruit, Mexican Lime.

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Peaches are almost ripe!

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Looking at this list, I gave you the wrong quantity of citrus trees. I have 15 fruit trees, but only 13 are citrus. My fruit trees:

Red Baron Peach
Mid-Pride Peach

Eureka Lemon
Meyer's Lemon (x2) (my wife loves these)

Valencia Orange
Washington Orange
Midnight Valencia Orange
Moro Blood Orange

Satsuma Mandarin
Honey Mandarin
Dancy Tangerine

Mexican Lime
Bears Lime

OroGold Grapefruit

Hard to take pictures of them because I can't get back far enough. All of the photos I have look like a mass of greenery :) This first photo is (from left) Valencia Orange, OroGold Grapefruit, Mexican Lime.

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Peaches are almost ripe!

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Awesome!! Those are HUGE! What do you even do with all the fruit? And what are your favorites among them?

I had a hard time deciding on varieties as I haven't tasted most of them. All I knew was I wanted a lemon, lime, and orange tree. I ended up with 5 instead of 3 though lol since I also bought a satsuma mandarin, the guy said they're similar to "Cuties". And I'm stuck with the calamondin.

I've got:
Eureka lemon
Owari Satsuma orange
Calamondin orange (eww)
Persian Lime
Amber sweet orange (this and the Persians are the two pictured above)

Oh and you've never attempted any of them, like the Mexican lime, as bonsai?
 

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I'm stuck with the calamondin... ...Oh and you've never attempted any of them, like the Mexican lime, as bonsai?

Funny you should mention this. I have a calamondin that I am currently in the process of air-layering just above the graft. I am going to evaluate bonsai potential once I see what sorts of roots I get. Calamondin is the only citrus I would consider for bonsai, with the possible exception of the smaller kumquats.

Yes we get a lot of fruit. Last year I pulled 4 x 5 gallon Home Depot buckets off of one tree. We give away a lot, and I have a juicer :) Some trees, like the Eureka lemon, will hold their fruit all year. Whenever I need a lemon for cooking or for seafood, I just walk out and pick one. The other trick is to buy varieties based on their fruiting calendar. Try to stagger the fruit so it isn't all coming into season right at the same time. For example I have two loquats (I forgot to list them) that fruit in Feb/Mar, then the peaches in May, then the Valencias in the summer, then the Mandarins around Christmas, etc. The mexican limes and eureka lemons fruit all year.

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As far as favorites go, it is hard to beat the Honey Mandarin for flavor. I like the convenience of the Mexican limes for drinks, and Eureka lemon for the kitchen. My wife devours the Meyer's lemons in her sodas - so much so that I had to plant a second tree (they are a lemon/orange hybrid). The peaches are beautiful in the spring, but they are very touchy and susceptible to fungus on the leaves and in the bark. Additionally I don't like how the fruit all ripens in one week. One week and you better be there to harvest and make peach pies, peach cobbler, and peach preserves because if you are a few days late the fruit is past prime and all bad.
 

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One of our neighbors has citrus trees in planters out in front of their house. 2 x kumquats, 2 x eureka lemons, 2 x Mexican limes. Not suitable for bonsai but makes a striking entrance! However the problem with keeping bonsai... I can never look at a container plant and not see that ugly graft :)

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Do you eat the fruit? I have a small one in a pot. I usually throw the fruit away, it's so sour.

You can eat it. I treat it like a Mexican lime - and you can use them in drinks like a lime. You are supposed to eat the rind at the same time - just pop it in your mouth like a cherry and spit out the seeds. Make sure you use them when they are mostly green and just starting to turn orange - if you wait until they are completely orange they are past their prime. However the one tree I have I bought specifically to air-layer for bonsai potential. I was attracted by the fact that they smell great and they flower and fruit continuously through the year.
 

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Okay, so to me… The least complicated, Preventative, and the best starting option for a newb would be the Bayer 3 in 1. Is that correct?
 
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