Miracle Grow. And how it's used by me.

M. Frary · Jun 14, 2017

I use this stuff on everything.
First off.
I add 5 of these scoopfuls to 2 gallons of water.

Makes a nice blue colored water.

This mixture gets poured on my trees once per week. Regardless of soil mixture. That includes trees in nursery soil and field soil.
And the leftover foam goes on foliage.
Like this.

I sometimes use it twice a week too.
It's easy to use.
Relatively inexpensive.
Doesn't attract pests.
Doesn't clog the soil.
Doesn't burn plants.
Doesn't stink.
Once a month I use Mir acid on conifers.
Same strength.

just.wing.it · Jun 14, 2017

M. Frary said:
I use this stuff on everything.
First off.
I add 5 of these scoopfuls to 2 gallons of water.View attachment 149226 Makes a nice blue colored water.View attachment 149227 This mixture gets poured on my trees once per week. Regardless of soil mixture. That includes trees in nursery soil and field soil.
And the leftover foam goes on foliage.
Like this.View attachment 149228 I sometimes use it twice a week too.
It's easy to use.
Relatively inexpensive.
Doesn't attract pests.
Doesn't clog the soil.
Doesn't burn plants.
Doesn't stink.
Once a month I use Mir acid on conifers.
Same strength.

Hey Mike!

Do you keep any azaleas?
Or other "acid lovers"?

My feeding plan is just like yours, minus foam on the foliage.... what's the significance of that?

And I actually use the stinky brown stuff every other week. So it's blue one week and brown the next week. Except for winter... I don't use any in winter. Except lightly on the trops....which I'm growing weary of...

M. Frary · Jun 14, 2017

just.wing.it said:
Do you keep any azaleas?
Or other "acid lovers"?

Had one @Mellow Mullet sent me last year.
It didn't make it through the winter.
But it grew like mad while I had it.
Pines and spruces like acid so they get the Mir acid.
The foam on the foliage is a little attempt at collar feeding.
Not sure it works but it doesn't hurt a bit.
I also like to pour the fertilizer on the trees when it's going to be sunny. And when they are a little dry.That way they suck it up like crazy and use up as much as possible.

LanceMac10 · Jun 14, 2017

just.wing.it said:
trops....which I'm growing weary of...

I'd burn some of these figs....but I bet ya' the fumes from the latex sap would come back to haunt me!!!!

just.wing.it · Jun 14, 2017

LanceMac10 said:
I'd burn some of these figs....but I bet ya' the fumes from the latex sap would come back to haunt me!!!!

Probably true!
Ask @sorce , he's probably done it.

Wilson · Jun 14, 2017

I am with you guys, blue juice for the trees! I also use other goodies, seaweed,stinky fish, and I buy another fertilizer from some euro company (lower ratios than Miracle Gro). I agree with you Mike, probably the best/easiest way to care for your trees.

LanceMac10 · Jun 14, 2017

just.wing.it said:
Probably true!
Ask @sorce , he's probably done it.

Ha!!! Not that kind of "burn"!!!!!

More like a sacrificial pyre!!!!

just.wing.it · Jun 14, 2017

M. Frary said:
Had one @Mellow Mullet sent me last year.
It didn't make it through the winter.
But it grew like mad while I had it.
Pines and spruces like acid so they get the Mir acid.
The foam on the foliage is a little attempt at collar feeding.
Not sure it works but it doesn't hurt a bit.
I also like to pour the fertilizer on the trees when it's going to be sunny. And when they are a little dry.That way they suck it up like crazy and use up as much as possible.

Maybe I'll try some Miracid on my conifers... mix up the menu a little bit more.

just.wing.it · Jun 14, 2017

LanceMac10 said:
Ha!!! Not that kind of "burn"!!!!!

More like a sacrificial pyre!!!!

Hahaha! That's what I meant too!

LanceMac10 · Jun 14, 2017

I think you'll find more trees than you think that can benefit from a little MirAcid...particularly conifers.

M. Frary · Jun 14, 2017

just.wing.it said:
Maybe I'll try some Miracid on my conifers... mix up the menu a little bit more.

I toss in a tablespoon of Epsom salts too.
I read an article on hinoki cypress that had that tid bit in it.
My trees start to get a blue tint after a while.

just.wing.it · Jun 14, 2017

M. Frary said:
I toss in a tablespoon of Epsom salts too.
I read an article on hinoki cypress that had that tid bit in it.
My trees start to get a blue tint after a while.

I've heard that too, somewhere....here probably.

Anthony · Jun 14, 2017

Dear Mr. Gogeerah,
[ at Miracle Gro ]

I used your product[ at 1/3 strength [ Lawn Fertiliser ], once a week.
This is what you did to my plant.

Imagine if I had used it full strength or more.

I demand my money back.
Yours truly.
Dissatisfied Customer.

my beautiful twiglin before

look at that branch length ---------- shame

just look at what you did to my twigs ------------ I wants me money back.

GGB · Jun 14, 2017

I decided last summer to go completely organic with fertilizers. This season has been slow going so I'm back to miracle gro, live and learn. I add one seventh of the large scoop per gallon almost every day which ends up being a full feeding about every nine or ten days. Hoping to recover some missed growth from this spring

Anthony · Jun 14, 2017

@CGB,

despite teasing Mike.

You need to know when to use fertiliser.

For refinement an organic [ 6/7 N meal cake ] is often used since you want fine branchlets and small leaves.
Ground growing is trunk and often 6 branches ---------- Inorganic fertilizers does wonders.

Speed for thickening as inorganic fertiliser and slow for organic for refinement.
Apologies if you already knew this and I am insulting your intelligence.

The images above illustrate a tree that can thicken branches rapidly, but does nothing for the trunk.
Needs ground growing [ Test no 1111111111111 ]

When you weaken the Miracle Gro to say 1/6 you will probably get the same effect as the meal cakes
say 6 N or 7 N.[ Lawn Fertiliser ]
Merry Day
Anthony

Waltron · Jun 14, 2017

who's drinking the koolaid? the key take here IMO is that miracle gro is specifically formulated in a way that it does not burn plants, mike has proven it here with the 5 scoops/2 gallon ratio, which sounds absurd. id guess that 2 or 3 scoops would yield the same potency as 5 but that could very easily be false. I think another key factor that should be highlighted is that mike waits either 5 or 7 days between when he does this again, during those days he is blasting them with high pressure hose water at least once or twice a day.

Mike, any results to report on your elm experiment giving them this does every day?

Me personally, I've been happy with the response from my plants combining with a variety of organic and chem based fertilizers including, green dream pellets, neptunes, humax, milorganite, micro total, and 2 types of dyna grow.. but it sure is a lot of messing around. its got me tempted to bust out the kool aide myself.

GGB · Jun 14, 2017

@Anthony advice is always appreciated, I'm never insulted. But I did know most of that basic idea, almost all of my trees are in the grow out stage. I have larch and pine in refinement stages and those get strictly fish fertilizer and bone/blood meal. Oh and everybody gets 0/10/10 come fall.

And I used to use epsom salt on my plants but I started to feel like I was kind of "winging it" so I cut that out a few years ago. Maybe I'll use it sparingly if I can find an article that gives me a break down

GGB · Jun 14, 2017

@Waltron if I'm not mistaken, and Mike can step in... He is using the smal side of the famous mircale gro scooper which is usually mixed 1 scoop to one gallon for "house plants". Where as outdoor plants use one large scoop to one gallon. Maybe I'm making this all up. But, in the meantime I wouldn't go mixing up 5 large scoops to one gallon without further clarification

EDIT he is adding it to 2 gallons of water and that does indeed look like the large side. egg on my face.

GrimLore · Jun 14, 2017

M. Frary said:
I toss in a tablespoon of Epsom salts too.

The tiny Hinoki starts out green here as it is today, I toss the Epson salts on the soil surface when it starts to move/grow. By mid Summer it will be a deep rich blue. Some varieties of coniferous plants that are labeled "blue" need that boost.

just.wing.it said:
I've heard that too, somewhere....here probably.

Epson slats are Manganese and I have recommended it for certain deficient plants but not on a regular basis unless needed. A conifer labeled and grown to be of a blue variety shows better with that addition.

Grimmy

milehigh_7 · Jun 14, 2017

M. Frary said:
I toss in a tablespoon of Epsom salts too.
I read an article on hinoki cypress that had that tid bit in it.
My trees start to get a blue tint after a while.

Instead of epsom salts look for "Sul Po Mag" langbeinite.

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