A Barrel of Scots Scotch (Pines that is)

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I know its not collecting season, but I figired id give it a go, pretty sure its a scots since it was growing adjacent to larger ones. it would have otherwise fallen victim to the mowers by the mall. It was growing in sand, root ball was not intact with dirt, I got all the roots, left whatever ground soils was on and around the roots. Shade and no wind for 2-3 weeks, mist daily.... Any other suggestions to increase my odds of survival?0912171101.jpg 0912171101a.jpg
 

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I know its not collecting season, but I figired id give it a go, pretty sure its a scots since it was growing adjacent to larger ones. it would have otherwise fallen victim to the mowers by the mall. It was growing in sand, root ball was not intact with dirt, I got all the roots, left whatever ground soils was on and around the roots. Shade and no wind for 2-3 weeks, mist daily.... Any other suggestions to increase my odds of survival?
I would put it in full sun.

I would not mist it unless you are spraying it with a peroxide solution (2 tablespoons 3% peroxide in a quart of water) to nix aerosol pathogens.

What you are doing is good for broad leaf trees with 'unwaxy' leaves, like those of Japanese maples, IMHO.
 

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Full sun it is then. Where it was,growing was fairly shaded, maybe I will slowly work it into full sun over the next week. And suggestion on feeding @0soyoung ?
 

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Full sun it is then. Where it was,growing was fairly shaded, maybe I will slowly work it into full sun over the next week. And suggestion on feeding?
Good idea - I assumed it was full-sun adapted. :oops:
Lightly - I apply 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoons of Osmocote+ per 'pot-gallon' after repotting. Osmocote is temperature-dependent time-release, so I'm unsure about how to translate that into what you might be using. It just needs a little NPK to grow on. At this point, too little is probably better than too much.
 

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A couple of mine.
I need to start using a little less fertilizer on these. Blasting them is fine when developing them but for refining it isn't the best choice to promote needle reduction.
I have a couple of real raw ones I've been growing out and they have needle length approaching white pines.
I'll get pictures later of those.
This one I got 3 years ago.2015-01-18 11.41.34.jpg
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The next one.
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A couple of mine.
I need to start using a little less fertilizer on these. Blasting them is fine when developing them but for refining it isn't the best choice to promote needle reduction.
I have a couple of real raw ones I've been growing out and they have needle length approaching white pines.
I'll get pictures later of those.
This one I got 3 years ago.View attachment 161042
Today.View attachment 161043
The next one.
Last year.View attachment 161044 Today.View attachment 161045
Oooh, I like that twin trunk! Looking good. How tall is it? Did you collect these?
 

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Oooh, I like that twin trunk! Looking good. How tall is it? Did you collect these?
Actually both of these came from Vance.
That twin trunk is maybe 8 inches tall.
 

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Mike your Pines are encouragine me to get back into some JBP, JWP, Mugo...
Also where's Vance its been almost a month...
 

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A couple of mine.
I need to start using a little less fertilizer on these. Blasting them is fine when developing them but for refining it isn't the best choice to promote needle reduction.
I have a couple of real raw ones I've been growing out and they have needle length approaching white pines.
I'll get pictures later of those.
This one I got 3 years ago.View attachment 161042
Today.View attachment 161043
The next one.
Last year.View attachment 161044 Today.View attachment 161045
Some nice looking ones there, my man!
 

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Went to members day at New England Bonsai Gardens today.

I had an amazing scots pine raft literally jump in my truck and beg for me to take it home.

It is probably the most complex, complicated and challenging material I have. It is going to be fun to develop.

Very excited about it and I cant wait to show you guys. Im still on the way home, currently on the LI ferry. Will take pics tomorrow.
 

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Alright @Paradox I am sippin my coffee, where's this beauty raft?;) It definitely sounds unique!

Geez, cant a gal sleep late on a Sunday morning? :p

The trees needed feeding and weeding this morning so they took priority over pictures.
And I had to get the beast out of my truck. Got home at 930 last night and didnt feel like wrestling it out of there.

Anyway, as promised, here are the pictures. Its a crazy mess, but I think @M. Frary might see a resemblance to another tree he knows well.

This one is going to need a lot of time and work to get there but should be fun.

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Geez, cant a gal sleep late on a Sunday morning? :p

The trees needed feeding and weeding this morning so they took priority over pictures.
And I had to get the beast out of my truck. Got home at 930 last night and didnt feel like wrestling it out of there.

Anyway, as promised, here are the pictures. Its a crazy mess, but I think @M. Frary might see a resemblance to another tree he knows well.

This one is going to need a lot of time and work to get there but should be fun.

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Wow, that's cool. Super challenging, all sorts of difficult decisions, great potential.
 

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I have 2 Scots but I'm doing something terribly wrong with their care. Both have bad cases of needle cast fungus and I wonder if they will even survive. The new candles all appeared normal this year and then after several days of rain it became apparent that something was very wrong. I've been alternating spraying them with copper and daconil and I sprinkled some systemic granules on the surface. They were in the exact same conditions as several mugo pines last year and through the winter so I'm not sure why the Scots would have been hit so hard while the mugos remain perfectly fine. I'm pretty sure I'll lose some branches if the trees do survive. The only thing I can think of to do any different is to spray them with lime sulfur this fall - which I failed to do last fall even though it was recommended to me by Julian Adams. Here are pics of the trees before and a new pic of the needles (they've gotten worse since this picture).

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The first thing you need to do is check the condition of your soil and the frequency of your watering.
 

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Scots like a quick draining soil. If the soil doesn't drain properly you get a water logged condition and the tree goes into decline.
 
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