River Hoppin'

M. Frary

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both of my stumps that I showed were completely bare rooted in late feb or early march. I have others that have responded well to the procedure. 1/8-1/4"pumice, repti bark, turface MVP, lava, and charcoal was the mix. I'm super geeked for repottong season this year. not to mention collecting. Mike, I'm going to make it a point to get up therefor spring collecting this year . gonna bring the minivan and fill er up, as I too have several trees marked.

I have some new theories on hornbeam dieback as well. still theories at this point but after next season I should have some more conclusive evidence to report.
Let me know when. We can at least meet.
One thing I've done wrong in aftercare for hornbeam is not enough moisture.
Another is not taking into account these are understory trees.
I'm almost thinking of leaving some native soil on the roots too for the first year. Then the second wash them.
 

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Timbo, i can tell you right now your dieback problem is directly related to those ugly, vertical trunk splitting chops. a clean cut makes all the difference, but also, take notice of old budding points on the tree/stump. it has to have somewhere to die back to. think of a plant cell as a microscopic water-ballon, try to pop as few as possible below your cut by whatever means necessary, across the entire diameter of the cut, it must be extremely clean across the whole thing, not just 3/4. its like if you pick a scab, and rip off a bunch of live skin, now you just made another bleeding cut and another wound all together. give the tree one wound, as small as possible, to focus on scabbing up. this is also true for roots.also, play close attention to the immediate weather, very important when collecting in the spring. temperature, humidity, wind, precipitation, cloud cover. feb/march to me might be march april for you. i know sorce' focus' on the moon, which I like, but similar to hunting and fishing, the primary factors to predicting mysterious creatures movements in nature is the immediate weather, trust me on this. moon phase is only a secondary consideration with minor implications in comparison to immediate/forthcoming weather conditions.
 

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I didn't chop/split it that way...the only reason i left it that high is because it had active buds all along the bark, and it was still green.
If i cut it down to where it would be a even chop i would have cut it down to a few inches tall and cut most of my active buds.
This is the first year i think...see the top buds. The splitting chop had been for at least a month and still had active buds, but they never did bud out.
I'll chop it down to the right knot, or the funky dead branch in spring.
It's hard to see but there are 2 decent branches right at knot level.
I was worried about chopping it with no active buds cause i've had a rough time on chops with these.
Oddly enough that branch had a lot of buds on it and died over the first summer. But it budded out higher than the branch.:confused:
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Hers are some the woods today.
 

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last two responses leave me scratching my head, but I will say, I would like to see one of these with hops in a pot. that's my goal at least
 

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last two responses leave me scratching my head, but I will say, I would like to see one of these with hops in a pot. that's my goal at least
I will clarify if i said something that doesn't make sense.
 

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ahh I see, timbo you found it it like that, i see the bark question now. apologies. I'm gathering a bunch similar to these, in hopes to assemble something like this. hop hornbeam forest.jpg
a forest planting at a local bonsai garden here in Southern Michigan called the hidden gardens




hophor10.jpg hophor12.jpg Hophornbeam landscape.jpg


and here is one I saw on an old IBC thread which also lend some inspiration. at the north carolina arboretum.
 

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I like forest plantings, especially Tropical and Larches.
My tree might not win awards but it's a nice little tree with a decent root base IMO and I hope i can keep it alive long enough to see some progress. :D
Let me know when. We can at least meet.
One thing I've done wrong in aftercare for hornbeam is not enough moisture.
Another is not taking into account these are understory trees.
I'm almost thinking of leaving some native soil on the roots too for the first year. Then the second wash them.
Thinking of taking mine out of colanders and putting them in pots, maybe terra cotta...they don't like to dry out.
I had my biggest Hornbeam in mostly sun this year, in the ground near a lake and he took off. It did get some shade in the late afternoon/evening.
 

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Yeap all my hoppers are poppin. Love these things. Dug anout 4 more already poppin
 

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Looking to get buds in here.20180520_145553.jpg

This...20180520_145103.jpg

Went to this.20180520_145546.jpg

I never get to cut stuff this early....

Sorry to you all who got my winter/spring this year!

Sorce
 

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I missed the collecting season this year...too much RL stuff. :eek:
Mine is doing good already with a re-pot and tried to cut down the deadwood to a smooth surface...they are tough to cut without tearing up all the branches!:mad:
 
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