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I will totally hit you up at some point too, I may(or may not) be in the US at some point next year. If so I'll let you know.
 

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OK I looked it up, now you have me!

So a 55gl drum?

If I do process local clay...
I was hoping to do it sans machinery, as if there was no such thing, you know, to relive the good times!

Sorce
Sorce, our local clay was used to make Chicago common bricks. The pinkish bricks you see on the back of the older buildings in Chicago.

There were some clay deposits on the north side that made a yellowish/brown brick you see on some of the older buildings on the north side.
 

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Sorce, our local clay was used to make Chicago common bricks. The pinkish bricks you see on the back of the older buildings in Chicago.

There were some clay deposits on the north side that made a yellowish/brown brick you see on some of the older buildings on the north side.

Fuck Yeah!

I been thinking about making a Chicago common pot.
Now I got the right clay!

Balls!

Sorce
 

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Ball mill, dirty Southside clay, the muddy banks out back the ohaire hotels, Italian beef from potillos, nike outlet, sorcelove, sorceskill, sorcerounds, I'm in love #nohomo @sorce lets make sure we connect this spring when I'm back in Waukee the week before the Chicago skindrawing expo. Ill even get you a weekend pass to the show, a good good time, tree talks, uncle kevs stash, uncle beercitysnake couch for the night, milwauk hot spots for tree, graffiti, booty, boobie, recreation and landscape peeks, a peek inside @Leo in N E Illinois eendless knowledge of answers for any question, guy is a serious encyclopedia, panty peeks, drinks, menthol smokes, the diesel left hand smokes, hookers, blow, I mean ummmm... Comeon..... lets just be bros in 2018. And I wanna raw banged up, uneven, high fired, dirty 8 inch, extra dirty sorcerer round...
 

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Sorce,

a few suggestions -

[1] Know what type of clay you are using ------- earthenware or stoneware.

[2] Know that even stoneware will crack if the soil freezes with water in it.

[3] Know that a porous clay pot is still considered more healthy for a tree.

[a] This why for natives [ eg. Japan ] they are buried in earth outdoors, with
a covering of decaying leaf mold [ gives of heat ]
Or placed in an unheated room.

[4] We stayed with a simple soil because certain trees, need porous pots to
wick away the extra water.
Example -------- the Chinese Serissa, loves to be watered, but soil cannot stay
wet. A porous pot [ at the bottom ] answers this problem.

If this is a potential career change, know that there is Pottery Science.
If you are just having fun, I wish you well.
Good Day
Anthony

* In business how you project yourself influences the prices you will be
paid for your work.
 

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Wow, this is so cool Sorce!
I will definetly be ordrering a Sorce pot when I get a desvering tree :)
 

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I think BVF said he doesn't like wheel thrown altered ovals.
Someone did....so I'll never do it!

Doubt I'll ever throw on a wheel either. Well....

My line of circles will be called Sorcerounds.

"Rounder than round"
A quote from this woman, which I was "feeling" before I heard it!

Oh how lovely!

Perfection in imperfection.

So......

Let me show you that Oval I did for Vance!
View attachment 167896

It should fire to a dark brown/grey hint, a bit smaller than the requested size, but I got faith in Vance and his mugo technique! Plus, I'm making him a Sorceround too!

Sorce

Dude! That pot looks great! I am afraid I would have a preschoolers version if I attempted it. In awe of how great it looks. Can't wait to see it fired!
 

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That is a huge undertaking...making a pot for that large of a list! I am not sure I know of a pot size just yet. You mentioned you envisioned a pot glaze for my ginkgo...it's going into a training pot... 12" or so BVF suggested a size. That is a lot of clay...I don't expect a pot that large. I do get they shrink with baking. (From what Sonny said when he was doing a commissioned pot for my wisteria) let me look at my trees...those accent pots the one with the cigarette looked sweet. Curious what glaze you will do on it. Keep at it you are on to something by what I am seeing!
 

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Lol....

Pots can be jugs, yeah?

But not usually tits.

I always wanted a full bass on my calf eating my knee.

So if pots were tits....
In tit-fer-tat...
How many tits would it take for that?

Bro....even cooler...a video...strap my leg down, make tat, the whole time....I make pots for you.....
Then we switch!
You make a pot for me....
I tattoo you!

At the same time. I think it will be fun!

We are definitely getting up next year.

Sorce
 

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That is a lot of clay...I don't expect a pot that large

I'd love to do the Bougie too.
Hell fire if I don't send you an accent too!

The less you expect...the more you're going to get!

Sorce
 

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I'd love to do the Bougie too.
Hell fire if I don't send you an accent too!

The less you expect...the more you're going to get!

Sorce
I only have one bougainvillea. He's pretty much home in a pot. You are kind...but, you will receive funds for your time and money trust me. You can not just give away your pots!!! Though I get your incentive...but that is a long list. Much clay=$$$ spent out of pocket. I Understand we are not to steal ones blessings. But...that list is long. Overwhelmingly so...At least allow ones to pay you your cost if not a bit more. Now...if I do something with that knee root. Maybe a pot for it? Depends on if I go with a ROR or exposed root. Or if anything can be done with it. But it's a project without shoes so to speak. Let me see what spring brings. It would be a smaller pot for sure... My Chinese quince has years left in its current pot to build ramification. So it would be a waist to go that route...If nothing else...an accent pot if I do nothing with the root. Your heart is pure gold...but your time is also valuable also.
 

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You are kind.

Much clay=$$$

But...that list is long. Overwhelmingly.

Your heart is pure gold...but your time is also valuable also.

This is so much the case.
Full time job.
Family.
$$$. $$$$.
And then the unknown and hard to control variables that go on in drying and firing.
Building green ware is less than half there and as soon as there is pressure to finish a couple commissions, let alone 4, the shit hits the fan a bucket full at a time.
I've only fired a little over 1500lbs of clay in 4 different kilns in three studios under two pros and I have a long road and a short list ahead of me.
REALITY, it's not my favorite word in this sport.

Oh wow! It's almost done! 2250 degrees! Fuck the breaker tripped!

It's such a fine line.
 

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@sorce hey bro, great project. I like your greenware so far. I'll have to commission you for something. Don't know what right now. Ginkgo, elm, persimmon, all will eventually need pots, but I have a hundred or so pots on my shelves waiting for the right tree, so I'll commission you for the one that nothing fits.

Can't wait to see the first firing
 

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I looked into getting Godzilla tearing out of my skin a long time ago. When tattoos werent everywhere. Way back in time when I was 21 years old. Kind of glad I didn't kind of wish I had.

Never too old I say, would love more myself but been told I'm a bleeder so have to ween the booze down for a few weeks in advance, Seems like a hassle.

Oh wow! It's almost done! 2250 degrees! Fuck the breaker tripped!

This is why I haven't ventured into buying a kiln yet, the bloody breaker trips if we run the AC and oven at the same time plus the way they do electric here is you are limited by wire size to how much power you can actually draw.
Any ideas if you could run a kiln on solar?
Could be a solution.
 

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Kind of glad I didn't kind of wish I had.
glad I did, kinda wish I diddnt. Having about 70% coverage makes me a target for conversation. I hide most of them when I can, not that they are bad or i regret them just dont care for the attention. When summer hits and I wear t shirts and shorts cause its too hot for turtle necks, I mean mug, kinda like resting bitch face only I'm not a bitch.... that helps keep the small talk at bay
 

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@Starfox ,

old 70's idea, Guy fires objects by the sun.

Don't know the issue, but I believe the magazine was Ceramic Review.

He might have used a Fresnel Lens. Heated an iron bar in a small kin and
the heat given off fired the objects to stoneware.
Also see Youtube, some folk doing work with a Fresenel lens.

Remember also we can make clays from 850 to 983 deg.C vitreous
and glazes from 750 to 900 deg c. durable.
Time has moved on.

See Richard Behrens ------- look for his Egyptian Paste and try it.
Books are on Amazon, not too much. Around $5.00 and $7.00 US

https://www.amazon.com/Glaze-Projec...572&sr=1-3&keywords=richard+Behrens++ceramics

When you get started give me a shout.
Happy to help.
Good Day
Anthony
 

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Never too old I say, would love more myself but been told I'm a bleeder so have to ween the booze down for a few weeks in advance, Seems like a hassle.



This is why I haven't ventured into buying a kiln yet, the bloody breaker trips if we run the AC and oven at the same time plus the way they do electric here is you are limited by wire size to how much power you can actually draw.
Any ideas if you could run a kiln on solar?
Could be a solution.
I learned fast that most homes especially newer homes don't have what it takes to reach cone ten. Now with a brand new set of elements you will get away with it, but after a few burns they are back to pulling hard amps, just breaking over 60 around 2225 -2250
Degrees.
I don't have my kilns at home anymore, I'm in a old industrial building with 3 phase and 120 amps of 220 volt.
Another major variable is how tight you pack the kiln. We want to pack them as tight as possible to get more done in a burn, but you are dragging efficiency down big time making the burn longer and making it necessary to hold your temp longer for saturation.
This is where thick shelves and furniture can wreck your amperage.


GAS!
 
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