azaleas for bonsai?

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He simply got a bit tired of repeating himself hundreds of times and I DO NOT BLAME HIM... It got to a point that I offered to take over questions asked of him to lower the volume. He said no problem but since many not have tried him direct anymore. He has a LOT of good info though :) He is also a VERY active club member, and a huge asset to the Bonsai Community along with work! Simply stated he cannot be everywhere at once!

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I read through this thread. It is from 2008, and is a little bit ''outdated''. More so in being unnecessarily obtuse with the language. The whole thread makes Satsuki sound like a "secret handshake society'', even more so than bonsai already is. Relax, Satsuki are not as difficult as this 2008 thread makes them sound like. The Callahan book referred to is excellent, and still available from Stone Lantern Press. The book defines the ''cult terms'' used in the 2008 thread, and explains them with plain english. It also explains timing of pruning, and the different response of the azalea. Late winter hard pruning will have a different effect than pruning hard after blooming. And so on.

Look for John Geangel's YouTube channel, he has a number of excellent videos on azalea.

Virtually all the techniques described for Satsuki azalea can be used on any Rhododendron, the differences are mainly a matter of timing, for non-Satsuki you might do it sooner, or later. With some Rhododendron, you might not prune as often as Satsuki, but by and large, quite a large number of azalea and Rhododendron species are adaptable to bonsai.

Satsuki Azaleas: For Bonsai Enthusiasts and Azalea Lover by Robert Z. Callaham seems to be no longer available from Stone Lantern. Amazon lists used one for $225. Maybe a little out of my budget this week.
I have watched some of John's videos, I'll have to go back and watch some more.
Thanks for helping me.
The ones I have apparently survived the winter, I'm looking forward to seeing them bloom in a couple of months. They'll just be pretty bushes at this point. I say that now, but sometime when I have my pruners out I'm kind of like a little boy with a hammer and looking for a nail to pound.
 

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OK, I watched John's videos again. I'm going to stop at the hardware store and find me a nice fine saw.
Looks like he was doing drastic cut backs after bloom season? Could that cutting be done before bloom?
 

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I’ve cut mine hard before blooming with no problem. The BSSF care calendar (San Fran group, available online) has hard pruning from March to May, before and during flowering. Although they and I have a little different climate than you! Especially if you can’t protect them in a greenhouse and you get a cold snap.
 

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Here’s a nice drawing progression and some pictures on training whips from a Japanese site that someone here must have posted at some point:

https://nao-k.jp/satuki/sitate/sitate.htm

Also, I’m not sure if it was mentioned but Nuccio’s in Pasadena, CA and Sonoma Horticultural Nursery in Sebastopol, CA seem to have the largest number of different varieties in the US. They both ship, but I have only bought from Nuccio’s in person. Also Satsuki Bonsai-en Imports in St. Louis, MO has imported trees with whips from $30 all the way up to the big expensive ones.
 

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Interesting. The development from whips is very different from John's approach. I have a couple of small PJM that I could encourage into whips this year. Might be interesting to see if I could get them to grow that way.

What I have are 10 to 30 years from being ready for any chops like John shows in his videos. I think I have to just let them grow for a while. And maybe encourage a couple to grow down for a cascades. And experiment with pruning tips off.
I will definitely be on the hunt for bigger plants at the nurseries this spring! I might even increase my budget to something more than $20.
 
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