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Adair M

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Definitely a big change compare to the original. I didn't see the long and leggy now.
It’s the same branches. Thinned, actually.

That shows what you can do with wire. That change cannot be done with clip and grow. Nor could it happen just using guy wires.

Pretty much every twig is wired.

“Wiring is bonsai, bonsai is wiring”.

I still need to tweak it. The bottom left needs work.
 

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Already improved allot with only just one wireing session nice !
??? I worked on this for several hours a day for a week!

Did some tweeks:

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Mainly to the trunk on the left.

What you can’t see in the photo is the depth. In person, the middle trunk in the back really looks like it’s “in the back”.

Maybe I’ll try one of those fancy photos I can do on my new iPhone!
 

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??? I worked on this for several hours a day for a week!

Did some tweeks:

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Mainly to the trunk on the left.

What you can’t see in the photo is the depth. In person, the middle trunk in the back really looks like it’s “in the back”.

Maybe I’ll try one of those fancy photos I can do on my new iPhone!



can you put it in a "thumbnail" format? Top to bottom in one shot? Looks good to me, photo distortion or not. :D:D:D:D:cool:
 

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I can remember going to Julian’s house as a newbie over a decade ago,he had dozens of arlayers like this,cheap compared to now,he had airlayers growing roots using just potting soil,hundreds of cuttings under misting systems,now he is getting older and no longer has that amount of stock,by the way I love both of your zuishos
 

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Still the first round of wireing and already quite a change but you probably know what i ment!
I don’t understand what you are trying to say with the “first round of wiring” comment. This tree has been wired many, many times in the past prior to my ownership. Therr are old wiring scars all over. Some almost completely healed, some fresher ones in the healing process. One of the things I paid attention to during my work was to avoid placing my wire exactly where it had been wired before. If a branch had been wired with a clockwise spiral, I would try to do it counterclockwise if I could. Or, lay the wire on an unscarred portion of the branch. I did not have to put any wire on any of the trunks, nor have to place wire on any of the primary branches where they attach to a trunk. The angles had already been set by previous wirings.

I’m pretty sure this was an imported tree, and not one of Julian’s airlayers.
 

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I don’t understand what you are trying to say with the “first round of wiring” comment. This tree has been wired many, many times in the past prior to my ownership. Therr are old wiring scars all over. Some almost completely healed, some fresher ones in the healing process. One of the things I paid attention to during my work was to avoid placing my wire exactly where it had been wired before. If a branch had been wired with a clockwise spiral, I would try to do it counterclockwise if I could. Or, lay the wire on an unscarred portion of the branch. I did not have to put any wire on any of the trunks, nor have to place wire on any of the primary branches where they attach to a trunk. The angles had already been set by previous wirings.

I’m pretty sure this was an imported tree, and not one of Julian’s airlayers.

Then to clear that up,
the first round if wireing in your care i should have said.

What i simply mean is that after your wireing work the tree now already looks more compacted and so much better so nice work :D

I was aware of the counter clockwise or in between unscarred parts of older wireing sessions to prevent the scarring from getting worse but thnx for the explaination anyway never a bad thing to read info more than once as a reminder
 

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@Djtommy , this tree has the “look” you like, I believe:

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The difference between it and my tree is the secondary tree is taller. If you look, on the tree with the guys, the main tree’s first branch on the right is opposite the middle of the smaller tree’s foliage.

My tree:

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Also has the right branch of the main tree opposite the secondary tree’s foliage. If I were to remove the right branch, it would put the main tree’s first branch about equal to the apex of the secondary tree. Which I think is too high, and makes it feel unbalanced.

All this discussion has been a good intellectual exercise!

If anyone wishes to see the discussion Ryan and the boys are having at the Rendevous here’s a link:

 

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@Djtommy , this tree has the “look” you like, I believe:

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The difference between it and my tree is the secondary tree is taller. If you look, on the tree with the guys, the main tree’s first branch on the right is opposite the middle of the smaller tree’s foliage.

My tree:

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Also has the right branch of the main tree opposite the secondary tree’s foliage. If I were to remove the right branch, it would put the main tree’s first branch about equal to the apex of the secondary tree. Which I think is too high, and makes it feel unbalanced.

All this discussion has been a good intellectual exercise!

If anyone wishes to see the discussion Ryan and the boys are having at the Rendevous here’s a link:

Yes I agree the first branch would look a little high but that can be solved by lowering it to fill more space, but as you mentioned in the other thread it may need some development.
It would be interesting to hear what these guys say about your tree.
 

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My friend say me Hai! Why you have foot under the bottom?? I say, he too much working for the wires. Hai
Update:

Someone found this thead and “liked” a post, so it came up on my “recents”. So, I thought I’d post an update.

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Sorry about the background. I’ll take a better picture when I get back from Kannapolis next week.
 

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This is actually one of my favorite trees in your collection.
Yeah, but after the work he put in, he's gonna hafta charge over a hundred bucks if he sells it.
😲
 

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Update:

Someone found this thead and “liked” a post, so it came up on my “recents”. So, I thought I’d post an update.

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Sorry about the background. I’ll take a better picture when I get back from Kannapolis next week.
That pot must be a pain in the rear to repot.
Amazing... A tree that big can live in a pot that small.
 
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