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It depends on in which type of soil the tree was growing. I don't collect them if they grow in any kind of loose soil (decomposed granite or good soil). Roots are too long. The best change is in places with some kind of hard rocks. I think you can get good root balls for single-leaf pinyon in Utah. There are areas with really hard rocks that provides the same environment as collecting Ponderosa in the Rockies. The main issue is that Pinyons don't have too many feeder roots in the wild and they are very brittle so hard to pack and transport.

During the winter I keep the trees in a hot bed (if the tree has few roots). If the tree came from a place with really hard rocks, normally, it comes with intact rootball and I don't do any additional protection.

The first 2 pictures are from a tree from a very hard rock area. It is already pushing like nothing happened.

The last 2 pictures is with another area where the rocks were softer. The last picture shows some dark areas in the roots. Those are feeders. You need at least some, if you don't get at least like 10-20% of those feeders, the chances are very low.PinyonGreatRootball.jpgPinyonGreatRootballUnder.jpgPinyonNotGoodRootball.jpgPinyonNotGoodRootballUnder.jpg

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I haven’t been successful collecting them, so far. Their root systems are generally poor. What conditions do you collect them from? Do you provide particular winter protection?

Me neither. They have the highest likelihood of death among the pines I collect. However, the ones that have survived were all in rock pockets and I hardly touched the roots....just seems like their normal environments are less prone to that situation.
 

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It depends on in which type of soil the tree was growing. I don't collect them if they grow in any kind of loose soil (decomposed granite or good soil). Roots are too long. The best change is in places with some kind of hard rocks. I think you can get good root balls for single-leaf pinyon in Utah. There are areas with really hard rocks that provides the same environment as collecting Ponderosa in the Rockies. The main issue is that Pinyons don't have too many feeder roots in the wild and they are very brittle so hard to pack and transport.

During the winter I keep the trees in a hot bed (if the tree has few roots). If the tree came from a place with really hard rocks, normally, it comes with intact rootball and I don't do any additional protection.

The first 2 pictures are from a tree from a very hard rock area. It is already pushing like nothing happened.

The last 2 pictures is with another area where the rocks were softer. The last picture shows some dark areas in the roots. Those are feeders. You need at least some, if you don't get at least like 10-20% of those feeders, the chances are very low.View attachment 241644View attachment 241645View attachment 241646View attachment 241647

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I haven’t been successful collecting them, so far. Their root systems are generally poor. What conditions do you collect them from? Do you provide particular winter protection?
I have had zero success as well. There root system are always so sparse at collection.
 

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I collected one, well kinda had to, it was intertwined with a Utah Juniper I was digging out. I hope it survives, not many roots, not much hope at the moment, but staying positive and giving it good juju. :)
 

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This is a RMJ with really tight foliage. The tree had 2 long roots and each one was completely disconnected from each other so I thought that I could get 2 trees from one.


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The tree grew really well so I separated the roots into 2 trees.

First tree is already posted in the site:

RMJ 3
http://chobonsaiyamadori.com/#/juniper


The roots were really amazing. It has 2 very strong rootballs so in the future I'll cut the long root and I will have a very compact rootball closer to the base.
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The second tree

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Roots:

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New growth on the trunk from my Utah Juniper after 7 months from being collected :D
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My triple head Utah Juniper, also growing like crazy
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I really hope this one makes it, just collected it a little under month ago and it has some cool movement, dead wood etc.
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More yamadori today.

The best one will be photographed tomorrow.(a pinon ironically) The rest of these are so-so. Its too heavy for me alone to pot it well, so my wife is going to help me get it potted. Weighs like 80lbs! Will update after.

I really need to go back to collecting smaller stuff. These big trees plus my pack really make the miles seem long. Happy Bonsai. :)IMG_0277.jpgIMG_0279.jpg
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Collected this wild olive 5 years ago.
I'm going with some club members to the same area tomorrow morning. Hoping to find a good Eriocephalus (wild rosemary) this time in addition to another olive.

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Still developing the branch structure. That's why the branches are so long. Cutting back some of them soon.
 

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It was in rock pocket. Had to sever a couple large ones.

Above them though, large mat of roots. Probably 2 inches think and 6-10 inches diameter nearly all around the trunk. Hopefully that bodes well. =p

Sounds very good and it’s a wonderful tree for sure! I like your securing method too.
My collecting days have been very few the last few years but I did get out for this one last season so that was good. 7D65AD01-CCAB-43F3-A7E5-23A610D43662.jpeg6D5171A6-84C3-4F01-9017-3A69B97E700C.jpeg
 
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