Shohin crabapple, ‘sargentii’

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If you don't mind me asking, what is the best time to prune them, without sacrificing blooming? I got two little ones from evergreen garden works last spring. Even though it has been a cold winter here, they woke up early and are inside blooming (still cold here). I put them in larger grow pots when I got them. Would they benefit from root work, or is it best to just let them grow? I apologize, if I am messing up your thread.
 

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This one seems to be playing nice. I like the Roy pot, but its too deep for my taste. But probably good for development work with the larger reservoir. Crabapple is one that I have always wanted but could never find the right tree. They look good in a box stand and I decided to bite the bullet on this one. it has a long way to go and will take many years but I think the bones is there. Its just a trunk now, but that won't last long.

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Hot Crab!!!!:cool::cool:

Ramification can be a bit slow, but I ain't no expert!:p:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
I think they appreciate a bit of a "deeper" container, too....:)
 

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Great little tree. What’s your shohin soil mix on this guy if you don’t mind me asking. I can see akadama and what looks to be some lava.
I used Aoki blend last year and it wasn’t retentive enough, so its in straight akadama this year.
 

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I used Aoki blend last year and it wasn’t retentive enough, so its in straight akadama this year.
Brian, I think I am seeing the same thing in some of my smaller trees. You use straight akadama in smaller pots? Because it would otherwise dry out way to fast? Being relatively new to bonsai I am still experimenting but would not have thought to use 100% akadama.
 

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If you don't mind me asking, what is the best time to prune them, without sacrificing blooming? I got two little ones from evergreen garden works last spring. Even though it has been a cold winter here, they woke up early and are inside blooming (still cold here). I put them in larger grow pots when I got them. Would they benefit from root work, or is it best to just let them grow? I apologize, if I am messing up your thread.
Still learning this one. They produce blooming spurs, and will bloom at those spurs year after year. Once you identify those, be sure to not prune them away. The best way to avoid that is to do pruning just after flowering I think. I’m still building branches and trying to keep short internodes, so I haven’t preserved any. It’s not a young tree, so I expect it to produce more pretty easily over the next few years.
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I bought 2 other crabs from Brent last year, did some heavy root work on them, then planted them in the ground. Since they were in 1-gallon pots, the roots needed to be pruned hard to establish the base on a single plane. Here is what I did, but probably wouldn’t do it this year if yours are already leafed out.
‘Sugar thyme’
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‘Seiboldi’
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Brian, I think I am seeing the same thing in some of my smaller trees. You use straight akadama in smaller pots? Because it would otherwise dry out way to fast? Being relatively new to bonsai I am still experimenting but would not have thought to use 100% akadama.
Do you use small size akadama ?
Yes to both. I really like Medium akadama for pines and larger junipers, however.
 

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Still learning this one. They produce blooming spurs, and will bloom at those spurs year after year. Once you identify those, be sure to not prune them away. The best way to avoid that is to do pruning just after flowering I think. I’m still building branches and trying to keep short internodes, so I haven’t preserved any. It’s not a young tree, so I expect it to produce more pretty easily over the next few years.
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I bought 2 other crabs from Brent last year, did some heavy root work on them, then planted them in the ground. Since they were in 1-gallon pots, the roots needed to be pruned hard to establish the base on a single plane. Here is what I did, but probably wouldn’t do it this year if yours are already leafed out.
‘Sugar thyme’
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‘Seiboldi’
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Thank you, and they are leafed out, so another year in the pot, but I appreciate the information. I will prune carefully, taking note of where they are blooming since the flowers are the primary reason I bought them.
 

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Thanks. Here is a recent shot. Keeping it trimmed short to get some ramification going.
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I moved to Idaho in October. This place is covered in crabapples. I've got some ideas what cultivars they are, but can't be certain. I've got two clear storage bins with cuttings outside. Seeing progressions like these helps me understand what I'll be getting myself into any of these strike.
 
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