BuckeyeOne
Chumono
Really!! No need for that. What are ya,12?
Come on man, if you're that thin skinned. Take it somewhere else!!
Bjorn Bjorholm Speaks Out On Hedge Pruning
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Come on man, if you're that thin skinned. Take it somewhere else!!
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Some mothers do have them..
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
Merry Christmas folks
grouper52
Masterpiece
I did take night time medicine.Sorry. Maybe tomorrow I will try to see if I know what I was trying to say. But I think if you listen to Bjorn he mentions one going in later to do fine tuning so to speak. Forget his words. Walter Pall has mentioned doing just that. So how is that wrong? It's ones who misunderstand what Walter Pall goes back to do...loses a step in the final image. There...
But speaking of styles...I personally prefer ones that resembles what I see while hiking. But in the same sense...admire the talent and quality of purist Japanese styled trees.
I'm a shrink by trade: coherence is vastly over-rated! LOL!
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
Good to see you online! Made my night actually.
Happy New Years my friend! Celebrations here, is an English bulldog snoring on my lap loudly. But good to see you posting. 
Arlithrien
Shohin
That's so quintessentially Japanese. Obsessively striving for perfection. If you've ever seen the the documentary "jiro dreams of sushi", Jiro goes to ridiculous lengths to make his restaurant as outstanding as possible. He would massage an octopus for 30minutes, I suppose to soften it up. But because he wanted it to be even better, he massaged the octopus for 45 minutes.
I can appreciate both methods in what they are. Never fully bought into the appeal to nature argument... But at the same time, to make a world class bonsai, to the point that every action is meticulously taken over such a long period of time sounds a bit stressful. Every snip matters... Like defusing a bomb. Now was it the red wire or the blue wire...?
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
I think that we have gotten ourselves to a point where we want to forbid the practice of bonsai that is contrary to our own?
Mikecheck123
Omono
Well, I'm just really glad that Bjorn settled the debate once and for all......
just.wing.it
Deadwood Head
Hmm....but why???
Selfishness?
Rigid adherence to any one method for some reason, at the cost of another potentially equal method seems weird to me.
I'm thinking a "best of both worlds" approach....or at least a proper consideration and attempting of the other method.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I think folks are soundists.
They wanna hear all ooohs and no aaahs , or all aaahs and no ooohs.
Naturalistic vs Traditional.
The asshole, will not oooh or aaah, before inspecting up close for signs of how it got there. Then he will make the sound he deems necessary.
The Japanese, while striving for perfection, also have this pesky little thing called appreciation.
This argument, is not appreciation.
It is, getting caught up in stupid childish bullshit.
Sorce
They wanna hear all ooohs and no aaahs , or all aaahs and no ooohs.
Naturalistic vs Traditional.
The asshole, will not oooh or aaah, before inspecting up close for signs of how it got there. Then he will make the sound he deems necessary.
The Japanese, while striving for perfection, also have this pesky little thing called appreciation.
This argument, is not appreciation.
It is, getting caught up in stupid childish bullshit.
Sorce
Joe Dupre'
Omono
Personally, I don't like the perfection the Japanese insist on. I appreciate it, but don't like it......if that even makes sense. The things one goes through to acheive some level of perfection are not worth it to me. If you do get to that level, then ANY deviation from that level is baisically a failure. If , having one branch in the wrong place or at the wrong angle is an imperfection, then your 10-20 year endeavor is a failure. That, to me, is ludicrous. Fine, if that's what floats your boat, but leave me out of it.
just.wing.it
Deadwood Head
Its as if we as humans, regardless of the contextual topic, just do this.....the bickering and side taking.
Chevy vs Ford.
Sports team A vs Sports team B.
45 cal vs 9 mm.
Republicrat vs Demican.
Intelligent Design vs Cosmic Accident.
Seated Male Urination vs Standing.....
Its all the same shit man!
We just do it.....for ......fun?.....entertainment?......true belief.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Segregation is child's play to Separation.
They have succeeded in keeping us Separated so we stay upset and buy things to remain happy.
Unfortunately, it's about God, AKA, the Almighty.....Dollar!
That's my take!
Sorce
Mikecheck123
Omono
Bjorn's argument is entirely question begging ("you can't use hedge pruning because the Japanese don't.")
Secondly, he does not even attempt to address what I understand to be the main advantage (time). Ya can't just leave that hangin if you're trying to convince anyone.
From a purely persuasive perspective, pretty subpar technique.
Secondly, he does not even attempt to address what I understand to be the main advantage (time). Ya can't just leave that hangin if you're trying to convince anyone.
From a purely persuasive perspective, pretty subpar technique.
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
Interesting.
I have no desire to debate the subject, its useless. But maybe we can show the difference in pictures. I don't see any difference, Bjorn is a hedger, pure and simple. He may think he isn't, but he is. I will be more than happy to read those that think he isn't. Don't let me down. You guys been slippin since I be gone.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
So.. Showing topiary and a picture of Bjorn with a juniper should proove he is a hedger? I am sure you have seen the video where he styles these trees? Each pluck of foliage is individually trimmer, wired and placed. Sorry, but this is a bad example if you want to convince people Bjorn hedge-prunes.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Lol!
Not that he hedge prunes.
That he's a hedger.
Nice.
Sorce
Not that he hedge prunes.
That he's a hedger.
Nice.
Sorce
Walter Pall
Masterpiece
Well, someone could use small scissors to prune his lawn for days to have it finally look like he did it with a lawn mower within minutes. If it makes him happy.
That's got to be one of the ugliest ''masterpiece'' shimpakus I have ever seen. Why not just mould one out of plastic and be done with it!?
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