Scots pine- a new journey

amcoffeegirl · Mar 31, 2022

Picked up some young and very young scots pines this year. I’m going to try to shape the youngsters. I will place some in the ground and some in pots/ boxes.
seedlings from left coast bonsai. Juvies from conifer kingdom.
I got a mugo elf and a ginkgo goldspire. These are going in my landscape- both are grafted material.
I also grabbed a couple more maples from Matt O. The chipmunks ate my last maple.

mwar15 · Mar 31, 2022

looks like the wire is starting to bite in.

Shogun610 · Mar 31, 2022

mwar15 said:
looks like the wire is starting to bite in.

If you’ve wired pines or worked on them before , wire biting in conifers isn’t so much of concern.

amcoffeegirl · Mar 31, 2022

mwar15 said:
looks like the wire is starting to bite in.

I noticed that too

Haxor Dave · Apr 2, 2022

I also have a scotts pine from left coast bonsai. I guess I gotta get more wire I can't find mine any where following for progress.

Paradox · Apr 2, 2022

When did you order? His website has said "sold out" on everything for a while now unless he just forgot to change that

Taste · Apr 2, 2022

Good luck on the journey as they grow!

amcoffeegirl · Apr 2, 2022

Paradox said:
When did you order? His website has said "sold out" on everything for a while now unless he just forgot to change that

He was selling on a FB auction and I messaged him when someone else won the auction.
He had more and I was a willing buyer.
Looks like I paid on Feb 22nd

DrBonsai · Apr 2, 2022

If I may make one comment, I would try to make the first bend a little closer to the nebari for interest.
In the two wired examples shown, you have 2-3 inches of straight trunk then the first big curve.
I am guilty of the same thing and I feel as they grow they look more contrived or less real and less interesting.

amcoffeegirl · Apr 2, 2022

DrBonsai said:
If I may make one comment, I would try to make the first bend a little closer to the nebari for interest.
In the two wired examples shown, you have 2-3 inches of straight trunk then the first big curve.
I am guilty of the same thing and I feel as they grow they look more contrived or less real and less interesting.

I appreciate any advice I can get- thanks

TomB · Apr 2, 2022

Shogun610 said:
If you’ve wired pines or worked on them before , wire biting in conifers isn’t so much of concern.

Sorry, this is really bad advice. You should avoid wire scarring if at all possible. That means removing the wire from this one now. I’ve seen too many good pines spoiled by wire damage. I’ve even lost branches on my own trees due to wires that were forgotten. Someone will inevitably chip in with ‘but if you leave wire on the bark will grow over and thicken the trunk…’ - yes, but it will look like shit for the rest of your lifetime. If you want to make good trees, pay attention to the little details.

Shogun610 · Apr 2, 2022

TomB said:
Sorry, this is really bad advice. You should avoid wire scarring if at all possible. That means removing the wire from this one now. I’ve seen too many good pines spoiled by wire damage. I’ve even lost branches on my own trees due to wires that were forgotten. Someone will inevitably chip in with ‘but if you leave wire on the bark will grow over and thicken the trunk…’ - yes, but it will look like shit for the rest of your lifetime. If you want to make good trees, pay attention to the little details.

Well obviously wiring biting to point it ruins branches but generally biting wiring in conifers isn’t as much as a concern as it is with deciduous calm down

Haxor Dave · Apr 2, 2022

Paradox said:
When did you order? His website has said "sold out" on everything for a while now unless he just forgot to change that

I ordered about 2 or 3 weeks ago the sight said sold out after I ordered my 6 jbp 8 japanese maples and my scotts pines

Potawatomi13 · Apr 3, 2022

TomB said:
Sorry, this is really bad advice. You should avoid wire scarring if at all possible. That means removing the wire from this one now. I’ve seen too many good pines spoiled by wire damage. I’ve even lost branches on my own trees due to wires that were forgotten. Someone will inevitably chip in with ‘but if you leave wire on the bark will grow over and thicken the trunk…’ - yes, but it will look like shit for the rest of your lifetime. If you want to make good trees, pay attention to the little details.

WRONG! Your source in error

. Ryan Neil from Mirai tells us to let bite in before removing on Pines(believe all/most conifers as well). Reason being this tells when branch is set as wired. Otherwise will just spring back. Most wire scars on rough bark trees heal well in time

.

" Someone will inevitably chip in with ‘but if you leave wire on the bark will grow over and thicken the trunk" If done well is also true.

amcoffeegirl · Aug 13, 2022

Well they made it through the summer.
I’m not sure what to do with them over winter though.
bury in the pot- in the ground? Unheated garage? Or mulch up against the house?
My maples have done well in the garage but I don’t think these guys would be as happy in there.
I have a few more pots too.

sorry the picture turned out weird. It was in portrait mode.

Wattsy · Aug 25, 2022

Iowa I suppose it gets very cold there in winter Scotland also gets cold and these trees live all over the mountains there I would imagine that lots of seedlings get completely covered in snow for a month or two during winter I’d probably just put them in large pots and keep above the snow if was growing them I am no expert but would think they would be ok not sure how cold Iowa gets

Paradox · Aug 25, 2022

amcoffeegirl said:
Well they made it through the summer.
I’m not sure what to do with them over winter though.
bury in the pot- in the ground? Unheated garage? Or mulch up against the house?

I would bury the pots to their rims against the house and then mulch them in.

clem · Aug 26, 2022

Paradox said:
I would bury the pots to their rims against the house and then mulch them in.

+1

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