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catfish chapstick
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Is that the front?
I think it looks very elegant. Is the pot positioned sideways? It appears to have a diminishing perspective.
I think it looks very elegant. Is the pot positioned sideways? It appears to have a diminishing perspective.
Yup...that is the front and you are looking at what is typically thought of as the side of the pot. The pot is 3'x2' but I think the diminishing perspective thing in the picture is just an illusion.
fourteener
Omono
One thing I think forest plantings should always do to a viewer is to make them want to move to the right or left to see if there is something around the corner that they are missing. I like the placement of the trees. The perspective is great and there is mystery . I want five trees, but I'll settle for imagining that the fifth is behind the biggest!!
In the end I think the pot is so outside the norm that everyone will want to move it to settle the conflict. In the future a round pot might allow you to keep the perspective you have , but be in a pot that is better.
This is a lot better than before !!
In the end I think the pot is so outside the norm that everyone will want to move it to settle the conflict. In the future a round pot might allow you to keep the perspective you have , but be in a pot that is better.
This is a lot better than before !!
Martin Sweeney
Chumono
John,
Shouldn't the 5th trunk should be visible from the new front.
I like the contrast in sizes, girths, heights and positions between the main tree and the two trees to it's left. I also like the contrast in sizes, girths and heights between the two trees in the two tree pairing. I think the smallest tree in the right back is too insignificant and wonder if it will get lost in the overall image once the trees leaf out.
All said, an interesting and evocative change from the everyday.
Regards,
Martin
Shouldn't the 5th trunk should be visible from the new front.
I like the contrast in sizes, girths, heights and positions between the main tree and the two trees to it's left. I also like the contrast in sizes, girths and heights between the two trees in the two tree pairing. I think the smallest tree in the right back is too insignificant and wonder if it will get lost in the overall image once the trees leaf out.
All said, an interesting and evocative change from the everyday.
Regards,
Martin
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tmmason10
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John I think it's very natural looking. I like the way the smaller trees look younger than the larger tree, which makes the scene very nice. The potting does seem a little unique and it might be hard for me to get over that.
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Ok... as far as having an even number of tunks, whatever...
But, I have to say that what I would do, is reduce the far left trunk
so there is a gradual stepping down to the smallest trunk.
Now normally, I wouldn't do this... have a russian doll approach where
there is smaller and smaller and smaller, and even smaller one...
But,
I really think it would work here, and really make your tallest tree,
jump out into the fore ground, and make it feel that the trees go back
into a false perspective.
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Ross
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I love the scene and depth, and can imagine a little lawn and open space (or it could be a swamp!) behind the main tree. It would be great for me and my dogs to play in there were I that small. The sideways pot for me is distracting though. I imagine you could keep the same width and depth by planting it on a slab. Or maybe go crazy by putting it in a hollowed out log, or turtleshell, or lower jaw of an alligator...something that represents the area where it occurs naturally. I dunno, I guess the alligator jaw might be a bit much but I love the composition and enjoy the creativity.
but I love the composition and enjoy the creativity.
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aidan13
Yamadori
I really like this! One of the most creative forest plantings I've seen, even if it is unconventional!
Ron Dennis
Shohin
Without over analyzing and being concerned with what should be or should not be, I like this a lot. Like the mystery. Like the depth. Like the composition. Want to see this personally.
CamdenJim
Shohin
I really like the placement of the trees -- made me see a real landscape. My memory filled in the missing swampy land at the north end of the farm where I grew up.
But I have to agree with those who suggest the orientation of the pot is a problem. A round pot would help, but I think you could achieve the same impact with the same placement of the trees relative to one another, turned 90 degrees in the pot, and with the soil line adjusted front to back to enhance the illusion of distance. That's the element of this planting that struck me first when I looked at your photo. So wonderful!
I have to thank you for solving a problem I'm having planning a small group planting. You've pointed me in a new direction.
Jim
catfish chapstick
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Ok... as far as having an even number of tunks, whatever...
But, I have to say that what I would do, is reduce the far left trunk
so there is a gradual stepping down to the smallest trunk.
Now normally, I wouldn't do this... have a russian doll approach where
there is smaller and smaller and smaller, and even smaller one...
But,
I really think it would work here, and really make your tallest tree,
jump out into the fore ground, and make it feel that the trees go back
into a false perspective.
I think this is a really good suggestion for the image presented but I feel like the vantage point is a little too high, like we're looking down onto the scene quite a lot. If it were more eye level it might not look the same. I'd like to see it from a lower angle. Feels like I'm in a helicopter looking down.
Sawgrass and Catfish, thanks for the input...it is very difficult to find the best picture angle when the trees are so tall. The outside left tree is already about 6" shorter than the tree immediately to the right.
Perhaps tonight I will have some time to take and post shots from a couple different angles.
John
John,
Shouldn't the 5th trunk should be visible from the new front.
I like the contrast in sizes, girths, heights and positions between the main tree and the two trees to it's left. I also like the contrast in sizes, girths and heights between the two trees in the two tree pairing. I think the smallest tree in the right back is too insignificant and wonder if it will get lost in the overall image once the trees leaf out.
All said, an interesting and evocative change from the everyday.
Regards,
Martin
Thanks Martin! I will be anxious to see how it looks in leaf...will need to keep it pinched this year so that it doesnt get out of hand.
John
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The approach is really unorthodox. It worked in creating the illusion of depth but I am still wanting to rotate it LOL. Maybe in time I will accept it but personally maybe a round pot will be a good compromise...have the depth and not create the (what I will call) pot imbalance.
(btw, my back hurts just imagining working and moving that group planting)
(btw, my back hurts just imagining working and moving that group planting)
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John, I wasn't commenting on the photograph angle itself,
but I would happen to agree with Catfish... In the future
just take into account when you are photographing, that
we as an audience don't have the luxury of bending down...
So, what you are showing us... needs to be how you intend
for the tree to be seen. Obviously if you were showing it,
you wouldn't display it to be viewed at this angle... we know
that.
I understand also that the tree on the far left is actually
shorter... perhaps the angle of the photo if changed, would
demonstrate this... If not, I would still recommend perhaps
you consider an even shorter tree... You have the branches
available to construct a new top, other than this... and the
pot being sideways, which has already been mentioned, and
can obviously be easily corrected next repot... Looks really good !!!
Keep up the good work !!!
berobinson82
Omono
If only we could see this arrangement on the youtube channel!
Jother than this... and the
pot being sideways, which has already been mentioned, and
can obviously be easily corrected next repot... Looks really good !!!
Keep up the good work !!!
your funny! So, if this group were in a show and you had the option to adjust the table height that it was to be displayed on, what would be the optimal viewing height? The group is just less than 6' tall.
ahhh...but that would defeat my purpose
...there is no need to confuse matters with side views Does it work for you the way it is?The approach is really unorthodox. It worked in creating the illusion of depth but I am still wanting to rotate it LOL. Maybe in time I will accept it but personally maybe a round pot will be a good compromise...have the depth and not create the (what I will call) pot imbalance.
(btw, my back hurts just imagining working and moving that group planting)
Sorry Dario, I tried to reply earlier and my post got lost in an network bobble
Anyhow, it is different...and to be honest I have been considering this arrangement for at least two years...you may have seen the video of the first rendition of this group, I was never happy... and I think all the looking and studying I've done has helped me adjust to this arrangement. Besides, the fact that a round container 3' in diameter would be a monster in more ways than one
don't you think an oval is more appropriate for perspective?I am certainly not the first to do this. I remember landscapes by Yuji done using a similar perspective.
I will try it for while...if I like it, I will have to save for a custom container!
John
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