Acer Palmatum, hollow trunk?

[maroun.c]

Was given this Acer palmatum today.
Main trunk has died off unless there's chance of any new buds appearing on it? And has a hollow base with no budds or leaves on the top.


The other sides show less the dead parts or hollow trunk but no clear interesting side.


Do u think a jinned main trunk with the hollow dead wood and restarting with one of the branches as a new trunk works for an acer palmatum or is this better left for conifers?
Any advice on potential plan or style or pics of maples with jinned thick trunks and hollow dead wood would be great as well.
Thanks

 

[Mike Corazzi]

What's it planted in? Looks like stucco.

 

[0soyoung]

A dead trunk is a dead trunk. If you want to explore the idea of dead wood on a maple, do it. Regardless of how one tries to eliminate a dead trunk, it will be a very long time until the living part will regrow over it. So do what you can to make it interesting or hide it somehow.

btw, you have definitely have a maple, but I don't think it is a palmatum.

 

[rodeolthr]

I agree with @0soyoung , this certainly appears to be acer platanoides or perhaps acer rubrum variant

 

[maroun.c]

What's it planted in? Looks like stucco.

Looks like regular soil

 

[maroun.c]

A dead trunk is a dead trunk. If you want to explore the idea of dead wood on a maple, do it. Regardless of how one tries to eliminate a dead trunk, it will be a very long time until the living part will regrow over it. So do what you can to make it interesting or hide it somehow.

btw, you have definitely have a maple, but I don't think it is a palmatum.

Was wondering about the idea as leaf wasn't similar to acer palmatum, not really familiar with mapple varieties. Will leaves size reduce to make a nice bonsai?Trunk looks dead as there's no leaves on top, do u think it might still budd out of the trunk or should I consider one of the branches as new trunk?

 

[NOZZLE HEAD]

All maples will reduce in leaf size with proper care but the level of reduction is variable to species.

I tried to get sub 5 inch leaves on a big leaf maple and killed it in the process, but that was before I started messing with chemical growth regulators.

It is definitely in whatever native soil that came from the nursery field, and will not thrive in that in a pot.

looks to me like the graft failed, and the stronger root stock material lived.

I’ve gotten trees like this before, and I bet there is not as much root mass in that pot as one would expect. Pull it out of that pot and remove the soil untill you start to see roots then stop removing soil and drop it back in, filling the void space with freely draining media.

Do a full repot when it is dormant.

 

[0soyoung]

Was wondering about the idea as leaf wasn't similar to acer palmatum, not really familiar with mapple varieties. Will leaves size reduce to make a nice bonsai?Trunk looks dead as there's no leaves on top, do u think it might still budd out of the trunk or should I consider one of the branches as new trunk?

Here's a group of acer platanoides (aka 'Norway maples') that I grew from volunteers found sprouted in my landscape (seeds from my neighbor's trees) and a leaf from the mother tree - no chemicals, just bonsai cultivation.

 

[NOZZLE HEAD]

Here's a group of acer platanoides (aka 'Norway maples') that I grew from volunteers found sprouted in my landscape (seeds from my neighbor's trees) and a leaf from the mother tree - no chemicals, just bonsai cultivation.

But think about how small you could get those leaves with chemicals

 

[NOZZLE HEAD]

But think about how small you could get those leaves with chemicals

Probably overdid it with the PGR on this acer griseum.

treated vs untreated.

 

[0soyoung]

Squirting a little BA/BAP on them as they emerge?

 

[maroun.c]

All maples will reduce in leaf size with proper care but the level of reduction is variable to species.

I tried to get sub 5 inch leaves on a big leaf maple and killed it in the process, but that was before I started messing with chemical growth regulators.

It is definitely in whatever native soil that came from the nursery field, and will not thrive in that in a pot.

looks to me like the graft failed, and the stronger root stock material lived.

I’ve gotten trees like this before, and I bet there is not as much root mass in that pot as one would expect. Pull it out of that pot and remove the soil untill you start to see roots then stop removing soil and drop it back in, filling the void space with freely draining media.

Do a full repot when it is dormant.

Thanks will do so. Wasn't familiar with chemical growth regulators, will check those up.
Socks to have to live with the graft bulge and have root stock material but hoping I'll manage to grow and thicken a branch from that trunk and that it'll look natural enough. I'll leave the dead trunk hoping a branch will emerge from it. any advice on which branch from the ones there to work with ?

 

[maroun.c]

Here's a group of acer platanoides (aka 'Norway maples') that I grew from volunteers found sprouted in my landscape (seeds from my neighbor's trees) and a leaf from the mother tree - no chemicals, just bonsai cultivation.

Thats great colors on those I hope mine would get to that red

 

[0soyoung]

Thats great colors on those I hope mine would get to that red

There are both red and green trees in the group. The red ones are dark during the season and turn crimson in fall; the normally green leaves turn yellow (as in the pic). During the season, normally dark red leaves in shade will turn toward being green. Your tree appears to have both (which leads me to think it is Crimson King grafted onto regular green a. platanoides) = kinda exciting!!!

 

[NOZZLE HEAD]

Squirting a little BA/BAP on them as they emerge?

This was prohexadione calcium a GA3 inhibitor.