Advice on pines, decandle/prune?

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Should/could I decade this still or would it be more beneficial to just let it grow? Tree # 1
 

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Tree # 2 (same question)
 

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What kind of pine, how long have they been in that pot, what kind of work has been done on them.. All things to consider before doing any work. It might help the world answer your questions more fittingly.

The answer is: yes, you should either decandle or do nothing. Depending on all of the above.
 

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Tree # 3 (same question, only this one I did a little experimenting on the first candles that it pushed this year, to see what it would do. It reacted as expected with an increased # of buds and back budding. Please forgive my inexperience.)
 

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What kind of pine, how long have they been in that pot, what kind of work has been done on them.. All things to consider before doing any work. It might help the world answer your questions more fittingly.

The answer is: yes, you should either decandle or do nothing. Depending on all of the above.
I'm not 100% sure with #1 but my guess is pitch pine
# 2 & 3 are black/Austrian pines I collected them all from my immediate location (NY) and I dug them last year and re-potted them in the spring
 

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I have zero experience with either of those. But depending on what you're going for, you could make that decision.
Is this the final size you aim them to have? Can they get bigger? Have you fertilized them enough so there are building blocks to build with?
More backbuds is fun, but if you're going for a larger bonsai, it would be wiser to grow them out.
I think everyone will respond in a fashion like I did. It's not that I don't want to help, but it's hard to look inside someone elses head and see future intentions.
Do what you think is needed, at the ideal time for the species. It helps a lot to be 100% sure about what you have.
 

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And start to fertilize them heavily. A weak tree will give you a weak response.
Can you give me pointers on fertilization, I'm very leery when it comes to fert. I don't want to burn them... so far I've just put "vigoro" granular in modest proportions.
 

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I also have some of this
 

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Any suggestions for research material?

@Brian Van Fleet ’s book is amazing and I highly recommend. I also suggest the Boon dvd series (you can stream online as well). I watch them over and over again, learning something new each time. I believe “doing” is the best teacher, but in the case of JBP, some base of understanding is needed before working on the species. With that said, anyone looking to get into JBP or JRP should pick up some 1-2 year seedlings. Wire them up and begin to watch how they grow. Your understanding of the basics will build rapidly.
 

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I like your wiggly little pines. I love starting pines young, so I can control all the stuff that normally runs away on a wild, older tree. Definitely grow those for a couple years. Every season I learn a few lessons. This year something that hit me was along the lines of ... It's better to over grow a tree and chase it back, than to stunt it by controling/ramifying growth to soon.
Be smarter than me, don't set yourself back, grow those bastards.
 

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Ok great... that's sorta what I was looking for. I know I need to do alot more research, I appreciate the help
 
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