Are fruit seeds a viable way to start bonsai?

[HorseloverFat]

I also feel it necessary to the “common good” of growth through shared knowledge and experience (Leave that horse alone you say? ... NEVER! ) to point out the benefits of collecting young yamadori vs. BOTH seed-grown as well as cuttings. (The scientific method is our friend)

I have initiated similar “young yamadori” experiments within my study group..

For your consideration...

Malus Pumila (Paradise Apple, Domestic Apple, Culinary Apple..ect ect ect...... a “Johnny AppleSeed” Apple) From this morning’s walk. (picture was just for positive leaf identification)



They’re out there....waiting..

 

[Carol 83]

Try this -
@Carol 83 ,

http://www.glasshouseworks.com/buddleja-indica-nicodemia-diversifolia

http://bonsaibeginnings.blogspot.com/2012/06/

Ummm, @Anthony, what makes you think I am looking for an oak? Maybe you have me mixed up with someone else? Or is it because these have flowers? I'm confused.

 

[Anthony]

@Carol 83 ,

Flowers and Fruit - Indoor oak

Just for fun zones 10 to 12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddleja_indica Old Victorian house plant Heavily scented

www.bonsainut.com

This is a sub-tropical shrub, grown indoors, since the Victorian
era, a parlour shrub. [ Madagascar ]
It has oak type leaves, and can grown in the shape of an oak
tree.

A shrub to 14 feet, and easily makes 3 to 5 inches in trunk diameter.
The flowers though small are highly aromatic. [ Evening ]
Easy to look after.
K was gifted with a plant in 1980 [ Chase Rosade Bonsai nursery ]
Would be a good indoor Bonsai.

Thought you might be interested.
Good Day
Anthony

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddleja_indica

 

[BrianBay9]

Propagation for bonsai - seeds = slowest / cuttings = faster / air layering = fastest.

 

[Carol 83]

@Carol 83 ,

Flowers and Fruit - Indoor oak

Just for fun zones 10 to 12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddleja_indica Old Victorian house plant Heavily scented

www.bonsainut.com

This is a sub-tropical shrub, grown indoors, since the Victorian
era, a parlour shrub. [ Madagascar ]
It has oak type leaves, and can grown in the shape of an oak
tree.

A shrub to 14 feet, and easily makes 3 to 5 inches in trunk diameter.
The flowers though small are highly aromatic. [ Evening ]
Easy to look after.
K was gifted with a plant in 1980 [ Chase Rosade Bonsai nursery ]
Would be a good indoor Bonsai.

Thought you might be interested.
Good Day
Anthony

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddleja_indica

Thanks Anthony. I'll check it out.

 

[Melendwyr]

Thank you for the suggestions! I'm not entirely sure I can keep a tropical tree alive... but then I am trying a lemon, so.

 

[leatherback]

collecting young yamadori v

Lol, now there is a contradiction in terminis if there ever was one.
How about, digging up seedlings?

In any case, I think some fruit trees are great to start from seed. Think about pomegranate, sour cherries, crapapple.

The only problem with something taking a long time to reach the ultimate goal is in the mind of the owner. Bonsai are not normally started with the "I want to have a bonsai in 2 year" thought. Enjoy the journey. Apply technique. Let it grow. And one day you wake up, look at the plant and realize: It is starting to look pretty much like a real tree. Do not think about what you might reach in 30 years. FOcus on the aims this year.

 

[HorseloverFat]

Lol, now there is a contradiction in terminis if there ever was one.
How about, digging up seedlings?

In any case, I think some fruit trees are great to start from seed. Think about pomegranate, sour cherries, crapapple.

The only problem with something taking a long time to reach the ultimate goal is in the mind of the owner. Bonsai are not normally started with the "I want to have a bonsai in 2 year" thought. Enjoy the journey. Apply technique. Let it grow. And one day you wake up, look at the plant and realize: It is starting to look pretty much like a real tree. Do not think about what you might reach in 30 years. FOcus on the aims this year.

I was thinking more “young” in the TREES general spectrum..

I didn’t think that 3-5 year old trees where considered seedlings, because this is what I mean by “young yamadori”.

I’m just confused and really want to understand what I said incorrectly.

I want to learn.

 

[sorce]

I think "youngadori" would suffice, though it would piss off Vance Wood!

Yamadori is traditionally reserved for something large, old, dope, and from the mountain.

We need a word to say "from the cow pasture".
Since that is where our best material comes from.
By Us I mean... Wisconsin, Illinois.

Sorce

 

[HorseloverFat]

I think "youngadori" would suffice, though it would piss off Vance Wood!

Yamadori is traditionally reserved for something large, old, dope, and from the mountain.

We need a word to say "from the cow pasture".
Since that is where our best material comes from.
By Us I mean... Wisconsin, Illinois.

Sorce

Hahaha!

I got it, now. Thanks guys.

Hmmm.. would I be safe to say, “Adopting Saplings”?

“Recruiting Juveniles”

“Little Annie-dori?”

“Oliver-adori Twist?”

“Sap-napping” .. I like that one.

 

[butlern]

Here is an orange I started from seed in April 2017. Currently (June 2020), it stands 24 inches tall and the trunk is about an inch in diameter. I chopped this spring... which was not a terribly smart, since I really had no clear plan. Wire would not hold the new leader appropriately upright, so I used a splint. Should be able to remove that next year.

Everything above the soil is currently garbage, but the radial spread on the roots is really impressive (no pictures at last re-potting, unfortunately)

Leo is absolutely correct.... these are decades-long projects.

 

[HorseloverFat]

Hahaha!

I got it, now. Thanks guys.

Hmmm.. would I be safe to say, “Adopting Saplings”?

“Recruiting Juveniles”

“Little Annie-dori?”

“Oliver-adori Twist?”

“Sap-napping” .. I like that one.

Ingalls-dori

Little house on the “dori”.

Little-dori on the prairie..

I feel like there’s a better ingalls one..

 

[HorseloverFat]

An orange.. then grapefruit.. they do not do well for me.. perhaps climate and lack of experience...



I also noticed another Malus today..an Oregon crabapple.. or maybe a prairie.. but either way.. ripe for “sap-knapping” (in fall)...once again, they are out there.

 

[Cajunrider]

I too have a strong affinity for fruiting bonsai.
I have two tamarindus indica that are 2 years old and 30" tall. They will be allowed to grow another 2 - 3 years before chopping and training. Right now all I do is to plant them in grow box to assure a decent nebari.
I also have one Thai guava that are of fruiting age. It has been in a shallow grow box for 3 years starting from seed. It will be in training next year. It will be funky when it bears fruits because the fruit is huge. Of course I will have to limit the number of fruits it bears. I am looking to add Fruit quince and mume to the collection later.