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[dick benbow]

hence the reason for selecting this one. blooms red and has a nice pink cast to the bark. I selected a dark blue pot to contrast with it, almost looks black. It just got slipped out of the nursery pot and repotted yesterday. According to the nursery man i got it from, he's been "playing" with it for close to 20 years. If you run your eye up the right hand side about half way you can see a cluster of buds

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Do you know which flowering quince it might be, and how thick is that trunk?

 

[dick benbow]

The kind it was ...was not identified. I got receipt out and saw his note was 22 years old.
Trunks were an inch and a half each in diameter, the root mass at 3 1/2.

I have a slant chinese quince with similar look to the roots, that I liked the looks of and that was my initial attraction. when I repotted it yesterday I got 5 starts off it that i hope will
survive.

 

[Poink88]

Trunks were an inch and a half each in diameter, the root mass at 3 1/2.

Wow...I thought just a third of that. Without a scale it looked much smaller in the pic. It must be very old.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Cool. Does it seem to be a very vigorous plant? I like quince. Got a few in similar size to yours. Hopefully mine will become something one day. Toyo Nishiki.

 

[dick benbow]

I like toyo nishiki. I have one in a michael hagedorn pot that's about 25 years old. My special one is at the entrance to my japanese garden. It's over 50 yrs old and has all three colors
that bloom. I waited a long time (about 25 yrs) to see the red color start up.

I have about 50 various color varieties of quince in the ground and in pots.

Love my quince. especially weak spot for red chojubai tho I do enjoy my white and orange

 

[youngsai]

very cool, I like that root work too, will go hand in hand with some contorted ramification!

 

[Bonsai Nut]

I love quince - but they are very challenging for me to get a natural growth habit. They grow long and straight The bark is amazing.

 

[fredtruck]

Clip and grow takes the straight out of the growth habit. Cut the quince back hard at midsummer, and then again in the fall.

Lately I've been doing both wiring and clip and grow. Seems to work well.

Keeping the quince in full sun except on the very hottest days serves to shorten internodes.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

I've noticed with Toyo Nishiki and probably others if you place the quince in a lower light setting, the flower could bloom all white. When they get lots of sun, the flowers have more color. Either way they look awesome.

 

[edprocoat]

I have always wanted a quince, never see them anywhere except at expensive Bonsai retailers though. I love the type ? that has the three colors, and the one that blooms red & white too. They make fantastic Bonsai judging by some I have seen. Good luck with it, sounds like you have experience with them so you probably do not need the luck but it won't hurt !

ed

 

[dick benbow]

Hey Fred, good to have you posting. Over the years of watching your posts, I consider you a midwest quince guy with the same passion for them as I, here in the northwest. Someday I'll have to PM and get a phone number and give you a call.

Two years ago, a person posted picks of a quince that had white bloosums with red strips. Reminded my of satsuki azealeas. Seems they were in souther Oregon with relatives in seattle.
I always wanted to speak with them to get a cutting. sure wish they'd podt again. <sigh>

 

[fore]

I thought I'd resurrect an older thread as I had one quick question. Does leaving the new shoots emerging at the soil line help thicken the trunk or do they just take resources away?

Thanks,
Chris

 

[mcpesq817]

Hey Fred, good to have you posting. Over the years of watching your posts, I consider you a midwest quince guy with the same passion for them as I, here in the northwest. Someday I'll have to PM and get a phone number and give you a call.

Two years ago, a person posted picks of a quince that had white bloosums with red strips. Reminded my of satsuki azealeas. Seems they were in souther Oregon with relatives in seattle.
I always wanted to speak with them to get a cutting. sure wish they'd podt again. <sigh>

Dick, I reached out to that person as well and he wasn't interested in shipping cuttings unfortunately.

Fortunately however, Brent offers multi-color toyo nishiki now - see his "toyo nishiki improved" listing here. I bought a cutting from him last year that didn't survive the winter, but the two I bought this spring have been very vigorous so far.

http://evergreengardenworks.com/carpinus.htm

 

[dick benbow]

Hey Chris,

It has been my experience that if I'm working with a single trunk style and allow it to revert to kabudachi (clump style) that it does take away from the strength of the older trunk.
Conversely, when it comes to clump style, abundant new starts tend to slow any activity with older trunks. So I keep aggressively cutting down new shoots as soon as they appear unless they're in a position to assist in the balance of the design.

I've found with quince to keep them actively growing is best, kinda like seniors in the human variety...they must use it or loose it.

The particular quince that started this thread bloomed. It was white and I must say I was disppointed. It transplanted well and reacted negatively to all the sun it was receiving, so I moved it to a spot that gets morning sun (east exposure) for half a day and it seems to have liked this spot better. Not an aggressive grower, but holding off any kind of heavy fertilizer till next year. In september will give a shot of bloom fertilizer to prpare for the next flowering season. The 5 starts have all taken but like the mother plant are not too aggressive.

 

[fore]

Hey Chris,

It has been my experience that if I'm working with a single trunk style and allow it to revert to kabudachi (clump style) that it does take away from the strength of the older trunk.
Conversely, when it comes to clump style, abundant new starts tend to slow any activity with older trunks. So I keep aggressively cutting down new shoots as soon as they appear unless they're in a position to assist in the balance of the design.

I've found with quince to keep them actively growing is best, kinda like seniors in the human variety...they must use it or loose it.

The particular quince that started this thread bloomed. It was white and I must say I was disppointed. It transplanted well and reacted negatively to all the sun it was receiving, so I moved it to a spot that gets morning sun (east exposure) for half a day and it seems to have liked this spot better. Not an aggressive grower, but holding off any kind of heavy fertilizer till next year. In september will give a shot of bloom fertilizer to prpare for the next flowering season. The 5 starts have all taken but like the mother plant are not too aggressive.

Exactly what I was wondering Dick...THANKS! I haven't touched mine in the ground yet this yr and they are lg bushes now.

And good luck with your fert program, I hope you'll have some great flowers next yr. Funny thing about my jap. chojubai though Dick, I repotted this yr., and not a single red flower this yr. Apparantly they don't like their roots messed with much...and I didn't even remove that much.

 

[dick benbow]

As much as I revere Chojubai, and they're what got me into quince, I understand the red variety the least. Individual and tempermental. White and orange no problem. In fact my orange i can't get to stop blooming from spring to fall. So hang in there. we both learn together!

 

[Ryan820]

I'm a huge fan of quince as well. I have a toyo nishiki and a toyo nishiki improved... both grow vigorously and both from evergreen (Brent).

I also have two double flower varieties as well as a white, peach and a red contorted form-- the red is SMALL and grows really slowly but everyone else grows strongly.

One thing I noticed about my Toyo Nishiki (my older, non "improved" form) use to bloom white and still does, but now it also blooms maybe 25% pink and maybe 10% pink and white striped... the rest being white. The tree is maybe 6-7 years old now and it's also putting on a summer bloom now, and they're a faint pink, none are pure white... so yeah, you never know what you'll get with these guys!

I live in CO above 6800' and the thing I have a problem with is our dry air and winds-- they do a number on the leaves of these plants-- but they still grow well. I have also noticed they like more water than many other trees and will react quickly if they're thirsty.

You can see a clearly white and pink bloom in the last pic of the toyo (it's not very easy to see as the bud was tucked in pretty well).

Chaenomeles 'Iwai Nishiki' by oryan820, on Flickr
Chaenomeles 'Chojuraku' by oryan820, on Flickr
Toyonishiki (Japanese flowering quince). by oryan820, on Flickr

 

[GrimLore]

As much as I revere Chojubai, and they're what got me into quince, I understand the red variety the least. Individual and tempermental. White and orange no problem. In fact my orange i can't get to stop blooming from spring to fall. So hang in there. we both learn together!

I have been growing out a small Double Take Orange since last season and took a good look at it the first time today. There is actually two of them about two inches away from each other How do these things handle being separated and when would you advise to do it Greatly appreciated.

Grimmy

 

[dick benbow]

anytime I mess with any bonsai, I always feel best doing it in the spring time when things are beginning to grow. I hate doing something in summer because of the challenges of heat and water. Fall makes me nervous all winter to see if it makes it. Spring gives the tree/plant
an opportunity to be awakened and able to correct it's situation instead of being stressed (summer) or put into a dormancy period with no ability to correct itself. (winter) Their welfare in spring, to me is much easier to follow at this time.

That mentality works for me, not sayng others might have a different history/preference.

I love toyo. recently thru the kindness of another quince lover, I was able to get two starts
on varieties with stripes and odd colored individual petals on a single bloom. They're adjusting to Washington state weather and I hope to repot next early spring. The soil they're in was correct to the moisture retention needed from wence they came, but Not correct for their new home in wet washington state.