Austrian Pines 1 yr (West Texas Nursery - A&M Forest Service)
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Leo in N E Illinois
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You going to "bonsai 'em all"?
I have a couple, and find them a bit coarse, long needles and coarse branching for bonsai. They are fine for large scale trees, but really too coarse for trees less than 18 or 24 inches tall or wide.
I have a couple, and find them a bit coarse, long needles and coarse branching for bonsai. They are fine for large scale trees, but really too coarse for trees less than 18 or 24 inches tall or wide.
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Shohin
gonna grow and see what happens. Trying to stay trees better suited to my area's climate.. hot and dry. .and more hot with tornadoes and hurricanes
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gonna grow and see what happens. Trying to stay trees better suited to my area's climate.. hot and dry. .and more hot with tornadoes and hurricanes
Does the A&M - Forest service stock any of the Texas native pines? I'm thinking pinion might be a good native pine, should handle your climate well, unless of course they only come from high elevation. Alvero, Cho Bonsai, has been have some success with pinion as bonsai. I would not think the European black pine would be particularly well adapted to Texas. Though because I live in a "cool summer" area, I never thought much about heat tolerance and P. nigra.
Japanese black pine, P. thunbergii being a coastal pine, certainly can handle heat and sun. They do not need as much winter chill as more northern pines, like P. nigra. I know JBP do well in the Austin area, I visited the Hanson's a few years ago and saw their JBP.
LOL, you do have 25 seedlings there to work with, you really don't need another project.
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Shohin
Natives are always better.
These are not the same as the European variety.
These are not the same as the European variety.
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yes.. @Leo in N E Illinois did they.. but they were sold out when i was looking at the trees this week. Today they closed the shop.
I just called them to check on my order of afghans coming.. They will open up again in Sept. I wanna say the only other pines they sold this season was italian stone.. Alot of their trees are sold for wind breaks since they are located outside of lubbock.. its flat and windy out there..
here i the link.. https://www.westtexasnursery.com/
I just called them to check on my order of afghans coming.. They will open up again in Sept. I wanna say the only other pines they sold this season was italian stone.. Alot of their trees are sold for wind breaks since they are located outside of lubbock.. its flat and windy out there..
here i the link.. https://www.westtexasnursery.com/
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Shohin
thats what i trying to grow.. i have some interesting live oaks and cedar elms growing.. picked up a Texas Mountain Laurel, anacacho orchid tree and bougainvillea.. i found with some interesting character. ..
are you still operating your shop out east?!
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Shohin
Semi - internet mostly. I am slowly getting it back in shape to let brave souls enter. I kind of close up for a while after a major heist. Had to move to a safer location.
Don't forget baldies, yaupon, TX ebony, persimmons...
Don't forget baldies, yaupon, TX ebony, persimmons...
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Shohin
SCUMBAG THIEVES! that sucks about your shop!
Bald Cypress is another.. TXEB.. and Perim. not into them just but i do look for good ones at the nursery..
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There's this... and 2 new ones coming up. Out runs and outweighs most meth-heads...
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Yes, availability is always an issue. The P. nigra will work, they are used by the thousands for bonsai in Europe. So do enjoy your experiment.
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Shohin
I have JBP also
i am still in the novice stag of "ooh. i like this tree.. that tree... maybe this one too">. LOLi should get One Tree.. Like an older, shaped and well kept tree so i could see it everyday. something i could display. I just turned 51.. i probably don't have much time to be growing out seedlings.. lol
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You have plenty of time for seedlings. The right approach is "Damn it, I have every intention of living long enough to see this tree become a show specimen" "Do not go quietly into the night".
But to really learn bonsai in a reasonable amount of time you need to have specimens at every stage of development. Seedlings teach you nothing about exhibition ready trees. You need to budget for one or two trees in advanced development phase, as the techniques you need to learn can not be practiced on young seedling material. So yes, get yourself an older pine or two. If or when you can afford it. Shop around, take your time, there are some overpriced trees out there. Wait, and a good value tree will come along. They are not available every day, so shop around and take your time.
But to really learn bonsai in a reasonable amount of time you need to have specimens at every stage of development. Seedlings teach you nothing about exhibition ready trees. You need to budget for one or two trees in advanced development phase, as the techniques you need to learn can not be practiced on young seedling material. So yes, get yourself an older pine or two. If or when you can afford it. Shop around, take your time, there are some overpriced trees out there. Wait, and a good value tree will come along. They are not available every day, so shop around and take your time.
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Chumono
Be aware that Pinus nigra is very susceptible to Dothistroma AKA Red band Needle Blight here in Britain - just saying....
Say what, 51? You're still a youngster, I can't even remember when I was 51, I'm turning 71 next month and did the seed thing 7yrs ago and I'm so glad I did, look what you can do in just 7years. All black pines in the Dallas area
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Chumono
You sure these are Pinus nigra? Austrian Pine is a different 'animal 'from Your JBP
